caution: this thread has a very high probability of veering into the subjective and the incoherent, and veer far away from SQLite, nevertheless...
from the recent thread on "what is a relation," I followed Jay's suggestion and started reading up on relational division (an article by Celko at http://www.dbazine.com/ofinterest/oi-articles/celko1). That led me to reading up more on CJ Date, to an interview of Date at http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2005/07/29/cjdate.html which led me to Fabian Pascal's http://www.dbdebunk.com/index.html. I came back less than overwhelmed. I found a lot of ranting on DB Debunk generally converging toward, "if you need to ask questions about SQL then you are an idiot and need to go back to the drawing board and read up some good, dry, humorless books" (I am paraphrasing). Most of it was bashing some poor woman named Dawn Wolthuis and even calling Celko an idiot. I have no doubt that Date is a big man in SQL history. I am not so sure about Fabian Pascal's pedigree other than that he was an associate of Date and Codd. Nevertheless, I am not quite taken by their penchant to bandy the "idiot" label so liberally. I spent a couple of hours on dbdebunk.com website, which is horrible to read in its attractiveness and design, and frankly came back not very informed... for most things it seemed to offer a, "go back, read up, get a degree, then come and ask questions" kind of attitude. I am none the wiser about multivalue databases, trees, or n-normal form. Give me Dennis Cote, Roger Binns, Kees Nuyt, and Jay Kreibich any day... or, just give me Igor Tantednik... over these other SQL "gods" (gods spelled in lowercase). What gives? -- Puneet Kishor http://www.punkish.org Carbon Model http://carbonmodel.org Charter Member, Open Source Geospatial Foundation http://www.osgeo.org Science Commons Fellow, http://sciencecommons.org/about/whoweare/kishor Nelson Institute, UW-Madison http://www.nelson.wisc.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Assertions are politics; backing up assertions with evidence is science ======================================================================= Sent from Madison, WI, United States _______________________________________________ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@sqlite.org http://sqlite.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
