> What I want to do is...make sure that when I say BETWEEN I really mean eg
> BETWEEN x1 and x2 when you look at the table as if it's ordered by pos and
> not rowid.

So, can you add "ORDER BY pos" to your queries?


Pavel


On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:04 AM, e-mail mgbg25171
<mgbg25...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Thank you all for your responses.
> I had to go out after posting and have just come back.
> My concern is with...
> SELECT pos FROM t_x WHERE txt BETWEEN 'x1' AND 'x2'
> and
> SELECT pos FROM t_y WHERE txt BETWEEN 'y1' AND 'y2'.
>
> t_x and t_y are dimension tables.
> that hold the x and y margins of a spreadsheet.
> The margins will have an implied order shown by pos
> which will differ from the order in which rows are added (represented by
> rowid).
>
> What I want to do is...make sure that when I say BETWEEN I really mean eg
> BETWEEN x1 and x2 when you look at the table as if it's ordered by pos and
> not rowid. I hope that helps explain why pos exists and is not rowid i.e. I
> want to be able to "insert" and "delete" records "!in between" the existing
> ones or at least make it look like that even if the records are physically
> appended to the tables.
> Hope this clarifies things and look forward to your thoughts.
>
>
> On 1 July 2011 15:30, Pavel Ivanov <paiva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >> Putting the 'ORDER BY' clause in view won't work?
>> >
>> > It will work just fine, in that the results you see will appear in the
>> ORDER you asked for.
>>
>> I believe that's not always true and is not required by SQL standard.
>> Most probably 'select * from view_name' will return rows in the order
>> written in the view. But 'select * from view_name where some_column =
>> some_value' can already return rows in completely different order. And
>> 'select * from table_name, view_name where some_condition' will almost
>> certainly ignore any ORDER BY in the view.
>>
>> So ORDER BY in the view doesn't guarantee you anything.
>>
>>
>> Pavel
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Simon Slavin <slav...@bigfraud.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 1 Jul 2011, at 3:07pm, Alessandro Marzocchi wrote:
>> >
>> >> 2011/7/1 Simon Slavin <slav...@bigfraud.org>
>> >>
>> >>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 11:20am, Alessandro Marzocchi wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Isn't it possible to use a view for that?
>> >>>
>> >>> You can use a VIEW if you want, but VIEWs don't sort the table either.
>>  A
>> >>> VIEW is just a way of saving a SELECT query.  When you consult the VIEW
>> >>> SQLite executes the SELECT.
>> >>
>> >> Putting the 'ORDER BY' clause in view won't work?
>> >
>> > It will work just fine, in that the results you see will appear in the
>> ORDER you asked for.
>> >
>> > However, it has no influence on how data is stored.  In fact no table
>> data is stored for a VIEW at all.  The thing stored is the parameters given
>> when you created the VIEW.  Every time you refer to a VIEW in a SQL
>> statement SQL goes back and looks at the VIEW specification again.
>> >
>> > Simon.
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