>       Thanks for responding, Paul.
>
>       I had many ssh woes yesterday, so I did not get a chance to respond.
>
>       Paul Newhouse wrote:
>
>       > > I have ssh-2.2.0, but "find" can not find pty.c, nor ttymodes.c.  I
>       > > have looked manually, too.
>       >
>       > Where does 2.2.0 check for "tcgetattr"?
>
>       I do not know, and I am not much of a C programmer.
>       Below is the output from a grep for "tcgetattr", does any of it look like
>       a promising place to start?   readpass.c?

I don't run SSH 2 because I don't like the license for it, I'm basing all of this on 
1.2.27.

>       apps/ssh/readpass.c:  tcgetattr(fileno(f), &tio);
>       apps/ssh/sshttyflags.c:  if (tcgetattr(fd, &tio) < 0)
>       apps/ssh/sshttyflags.c:  ssh_warning("tcgetattr: %.100s", strerror(errno));

I'd put one of my debuging messages after this line here

>       apps/ssh/sshttyflags.c:  if (tcgetattr(fd, &tio) < 0)
>       lib/sshreadline/sshreadline.c:  if (tcgetattr(fd, fd_tio) < 0)
>       lib/sshreadline/sshreadline.c:      ssh_warning("Warning: tcgetattr failed in "

here

>       lib/sshsession/sshtty.c:      if (tcgetattr(fd, &tio) < 0)
>       lib/sshsession/sshtty.c:        perror("tcgetattr");

and here.  Little gems like this:

                 log_msg("%s:%d tcgetattr 1 -failed  %d %s      (%s)\n",
                         __FILE__, __LINE__, fd, strerror(errno),

Also look for where it's doing 

    isatty(...)

and instrument those as well.  Then try pushing "ptem" & "ldterm" just before
the one that is failing (make it a tty).  Hmmm, actually you know where it is failing

>       Gary
>
>       >
>       > Paul
>       >
>       > >     Gary
>       > >
>       > >     On Oct 12,  3:57am, Paul Newhouse wrote:
>       > >     > Subject: RE: Error: You have no controlling terminal.Can't
>       initialize
>       > >     read
>       > >     > >The error is coming from ssh2.c where it tries to open /dev/tty     
> and
>       > >     fails.

It's right here.

Hmmmm, I might be steering you wrong with this.  It's not that your tty isn't 
configured
correctly, it's that you don't have a tty.  You could try opening /dev/null in this 
case
and pushing the modules on to that file descriptor?  Pretty gross but, ...

Paul

>       > >     > >Looking at the ssh man pages I thought adding a "-t" would allocate 
>a
>       > >     tty.
>       > >     > >But no luck there.  Apart from hacking the source code to comment 
>out
>       > >     that test
>       > >     > >does anyone have any suggestions?
>       > >     >
>       > >     > There is an example in pty.c.  I put the following in ttymodes.c 
>about
>       > >     line 284:
>       > >     >
>       > >     > if (tcgetattr(fd, &tio) < 0)
>       > >     >     {
>       > >     >         char *c = ttyname(fd);
>       > >     >
>       > >     > +        ioctl(fd, I_PUSH, "ptem");   /* push ptem */
>       > >     > +        ioctl(fd, I_PUSH, "ldterm"); /* push ldterm */
>       > >     >
>       > >     >         if (tcgetattr(fd, &tio) < 0) {
>       > >     >                 packet_put_char(TTY_OP_END);
>       > >     >                 log_msg("tcgetattr: %.100s", strerror(errno));
>       > >     >                 log_msg("%s:%d tcgetattr 1 -failed  %d %s     
>(%s)\n",
>       > >     >                         __FILE__, __LINE__, fd, strerror(errno),
>       c ==
>       > >     NULL ? "<null>" : c);
>       > >     >                 return;
>       > >     >         }
>       > >     >     }
>       > >     >
>       > >     > Good luck,
>       > >     > Paul
>       > >     >-- End of excerpt from Paul Newhouse
>       > >
>       > >
>       > >
>       >-- End of excerpt from Paul Newhouse
>
>
>
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>       Gary Strahan, Ph.D.
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