Speaking of miniscule boilers, have you seen the 'HO' scale live steam locomotive? I 
had a chance to chat with the fellow (from Cincinnati, Ohio) who built one. He uses a 
simple flue less boiler, and a butane burner in the tender.  Just stirring the pot!

Terry
 
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Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:27 PM
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Subject: Re: How small is too small?

Current loco inventory consists of a Basic project engine, an Aster Mikado
and a 'under construction' G1MRA "Project".  Yup, I'm a 'steam' newbie, but
don't worry - I like to fiddle! :-) But point taken on the running
characteristics of miniscule boilered models.  I suppose I may just have to
get a Lion, but strictly for research mind you.................

I ordered the Harris book although I didn't see it on the SS website?
Thanks for pointing this out to me, I wasn't aware this information was
'readily' available.  It should prove invaluable.

Kindest Regards,
PeteH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Shyvers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Pete,
>
> What locos are you steaming now? It would be wise to get some experience
> running a small loco of more typical design for gauge-1, like a Mamod,
> Jane, or Ruby. These will provide lessons about small loco steam
> generation, size of fires, and what the controls will and will not do.
> The DeWitt Clinton in gauge-1 sounds like it might be on the far edge of
> the small steamer design envelope, and might prove very fiddly and
> frustrating to debug.
>
> On the other hand, having said all that, I recommend that you get a copy
> of K.N.Harris' Model Boilers and Boilermaking.  (Sulphur Springs lists
> it in their catalog.)  Harris will tell you where to start when
> designing a boiler, including info on how to size the boiler tubes.
>
> Harris starts the design process by calculating the required steam
> production rate (volume of steam needed per unit time) based on the
> cylinder volume, driver diameter, and planned speed. Then he determines
> the needed evaporative surface area from the required steam production
> rate, steam pressure, firing method (fuel, BTU) and boiler
> configuration. From there the firebox size, tube size, and number of
> tubes can be determined. It's a rigorous process but not more difficult
> than high school chemistry calculations.
>
> I wish that I had studied Harris before I configured my first
> boiler/engine combination. Based on what I know now, thanks to Harris'
> book, that effort fell far short of qualifying as a "design" process. I
> did learn a lot, but only after I had Harris' book in hand, stepped
> through the boiler design calculations, and saw where my empirical
> assumptions were mainly wishful thinking.
>
> Steve
>
>













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