Just to focus on a tiny bit of this...

> On 8 Dec 2020, at 08:40, Dave Cridland <d...@cridland.net> wrote:
>  "this wasn't really a message at all, this message explains why". The latter 
> feels like a case of failed feature negotiation, though.

I think we used to believe that. In the face of carbons and MAM, I it’s no 
longer true (and maybe it never was).

/K
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