On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 09:25, Kevin Smith <kevin.sm...@isode.com> wrote:

> Just to focus on a tiny bit of this...
>
> On 8 Dec 2020, at 08:40, Dave Cridland <d...@cridland.net> wrote:
>  "this wasn't really a message at all, this message explains why". The
> latter feels like a case of failed feature negotiation, though.
>
>
> I think we used to believe that. In the face of carbons and MAM, I it’s no
> longer true (and maybe it never was).
>

It's still a failure even if there's no good way to do it for now.

Either way, I think we do need a better story around this failure case, and
a way of reducing the failure case.

Dave.
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