A boy with a hammer sees everything as a nail. A member of XSF has a clear procedure, so he sees everything as a XEP.
However, imagine a fresh developer, who wants to create a messaging app, and has these available sets of documents: https://xmpp.org/extensions/ https://matrix.org/docs/spec/ https://docs.rocket.chat/ Which platform would he select to create an app? Why he is least likely to choose XMPP? пт, 11 июн. 2021 г. в 16:10, Ralph Meijer <ral...@ik.nu>: > Hi Andrew, > > Thank you for your feedback. > > When the XSF (then JSF) started publishing XEPs they were known as > Jabber Enhancement Proposals. We modeled this after other organizations, > in particular the well-known PEP series of the Python Software > Foundation. It is explicitly the intent to include both procedural and > protocol standards documents in this series. This is why there are > different *types* of XEPs, or *tracks* if you will. You can read up on > this in XEP-0001. > > The fact that the expanded name is now XMPP Extension Protocol doesn't > change that fact. Whether that change was a wise choice is debatable, > and maybe indeed we should have used XMPP Enhancement Proposal or XSF > Enhancement Proposal or some such. I remember there was a discussion on > this way back when, but I haven't taken the time to look it up in our > archives. > > Including procedural documents into standards series like this is a very > common practice. Examples include the PSF mentioned above, numerous > Apache Software Foundation procects, and the IETF. Doing it this way > provides us with a clear framework for developing procedures and putting > them in force. It doesn't preclude to possibility to (also) present the > output of such proposals in other places, like a dedicated page on the > XSF website. > > If you have suggestions on how to improve our processes, we welcome your > constructive input. We then have clear ways to consider your > suggestions, including proposals to include cookie recipes. > > -- > Cheers, > > ralphm > > > On 11/06/2021 10.40, Andrew Nenakhov wrote: > > Yet another irrelevant document masquerading as a protocol extension. I > > suggest stop using XEPs as an unsorted pile of various texts, or else > > you'll soon have cookie recipes there. > > If you want some place for a CoC, just put in on a website in > > 'community' section next to 'membership' page. > > > > > > чт, 10 июн. 2021 г. в 21:32, Jonas Schäfer <jo...@wielicki.name > > <mailto:jo...@wielicki.name>>: > > > > Version 0.1.0 of XEP-0458 (Community Code of Conduct) has been > > released. > > > > Abstract: > > This document describes the XMPP Standard Foundation's Code of > Conduct > > > > Changelog: > > Accept as Experimental after unanimous approval by Board of the > > ProtoXEP draft for discussion within the community. (XEP Editor > (jsc)) > > > > URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0458.html > > <https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0458.html> > > > > Note: The information in the XEP list at > > https://xmpp.org/extensions/ <https://xmpp.org/extensions/> > > is updated by a separate automated process and may be stale at the > > time this email is sent. The XEP documents linked herein are up-to- > > date. > > _______________________________________________ > > Standards mailing list > > Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards > > <https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards> > > Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org > > <mailto:standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > -- > > Andrew Nenakhov > > CEO, redsolution, OÜ > > https://redsolution.com <http://www.redsolution.com> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Standards mailing list > > Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards > > Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Standards mailing list > Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards > Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org > _______________________________________________ > -- Andrew Nenakhov CEO, redsolution, OÜ https://redsolution.com <http://www.redsolution.com>
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