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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:55:43 -0500
From: Bill Taylor's <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Connecting Apple/IBM SCSI drive 'DORS-32160'?

Hello All,

I've been given an older 2 gig hard drive that according to the label
is an Apple/IBM model 'DORS-32160'.

I'm in something of a bind because although I've easily connected the
power and data cables, I don't know where to connect the SCSI idea
cable?

I'm using a generic SCSI external case, and although it can
accommodate two drives [presumably used for a RAID] the wires that
connect the SCSI switch to the drive have what looks like a 3 pin
receptacle at the end.

On the underside of the drive, there are two rows of pins which so
far, have one jumper on them in the eighth position from the right
side.  In other words, when viewed from upside down with data
receptacle at the top, the jumper is on the fifth set of jumpers to
the right of the outer edge of the drive.

There's something of an index, detailing what each set of the 21 pins
are for.  According to this index sticker, and going from left to
right, position:

12 = LED out
11 = Disable Parity
10 = Delay Start 6/12
9 = Auto Start Delay
8 = Spare
7 = Disable Unit Attn
6 = SCSI Term On
5 = Disable Auto Spin
4 = ID Bit 0
3 = ID Bit 1
2 = ID Bit 2
1 = Spare [50 pin] ID bit 3 [For Wide]

The spacing on the two rows of 12 pins is such that I can't connect
this 3 pin receptacle on the SCSI idea cable.  Regardless, I can't
determine which sets of pins this cable should be connected to
anyway.  When all is powered up, the machine wont mount the drive,
and I'm prevented form formatting or initializing it with Drive Setup
2.0.7.

The good news is that this and some three other drive formatting and
initialization programs do recognize the drive, but all fail to work
with it.

I am assuming this is because I've not been able to properly set the SCSI ID.

Can anyone please tell on which set of pins this SCSI ID cable should
be connected to?

I've tried doing a Google search on this, and have come up with
little to no information detailing on which pins to attach this SCSI
ID cable, that at the other end is connected to the SCSI ID switch on
the outside of this case.

Thanks in advance for any and all help on this matter.

Cheers,

Bill

Hi Bill...

In the many iterations of SCSI drives, some have
the socket for that ID cable built into the end, side
or bottom of the plastic end molding. Others, take
advantage of the SCSI addressing pins which are
to be found on the PC board (the bottom) of the
drive.

If you see such a set of pins, there will usually
be a jumper which is removable, and bridges
(connects) two pins. The SCSI addresses are
usually printed on the PC board, adjacent to the
pairs of pins.

In some instances, you can remove the jumper
and push the end of the ID cable onto the set
of pins. I have seen several drive cases which
can adapt to this, and others which cannot.

If your drive cannot adapt to the cable of the
case, just choose an address and set the
drive with the jumper. Be sure that the address
you choose, is not the same as/in conflict with
any other SCSI device in use.

If you have it or can find it, the little utility/control
panel 'SCSI Probe' is very useful when setting up
or troubleshooting anything SCSI. It can mount
or dismount devices, as well as signifying their
addresses.

I have, just for the fun and challenge of it,
connected the maximum number of SCSI
devices to various vintage Macs. It is puzzling
how a chain of devices which are well-tolerated
by one old Mac, will not work with another. This
has led to the concept of 'SCSI  Voodoo'.

If your case has the option of 'active termination,
try it with that turned on and off and see which
way works best on your Mac. If not, be sure
to apply a 'terminator' to the empty Centronics-50
connector on the case. In the instance of a chain
of several SCSI devices, terminate the last
device in the chain.

Be sure your external drive is up and running
before booting your Mac. Beware of connecting
or disconnecting SCSI cables while the Mac is
up and running.

Good luck!


==Gene Poole==

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