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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 20:50:17 -0600
> From: "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SLU] Size does matter !
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 10:01:28PM -0400, Chuck Seiders wrote:
> > I've an old 486DX4 -100mhz w/ 40mb RAM, 3 Western Digital 540mb IDE HDD's, 4x IDE
>
> 'Sounds like my desktop machine, 'cept I went scsi & 96 Mb ram. Off
> hand, it should be fine.
>
> > and a Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM/S3 2mb video. I've been told this will be just fine
> > for a firewall for a 6-10 machine home network project. True or False? I'll be
>
> In my opinion, a firewall should be that and that only. You really
> shouldn't be doing anything else with it, else you compromise the
> security that the firewall gives you. But, I'll leave that to you.
Meaning, In your opinion, no Xwindows?
> > partitioning scheme of: hda1=40mb<swap> hda2=475mb / hdb1=40mb<swap> hdb2=475mb
> > /var hdc1=40mb<swap> hdc2=475mb /home. Only Xwindows, internet client and
>
> *Three* 40 Mb swaps?!? You've only 40 Mb ram to swap! Buy ram or
> this will run like a dog, constantly swapping.
I was advised the separate swap on each of the three drives would boost performance on
these old drives? Bum tip?
>
>
> > with same partitioning scheme, however, I didn't select Xwindows this time and the
> > install completed fine except the NIC's were not detected/installed. I do not see
> > them in /dev/ or /proc/ioports or /proc/interrupts and finally, not in ifconfig.
>
> Is there anything in dmesg or /var/log/messages about them?
>
Nothing in dmesg or /var/log messages unless it's:
kernel: PCI: BIOS reporting unknown device 01:20
what's device 01:20?
when I cat /proc/pci I found:
PCI devices found:
Bus 0, device 13, function 0:
VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. Trio32/Trio64 (rev 0).
Medium devsel. IRQ 11.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf0000000 [0xf0000000].
Bus 0, device 14, function 0:
Ethernet controller: LiteOn Unknown device (rev 37).
Vendor id=11ad. Device id=c115.
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 12. Master Capable. No bursts.
Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=56.
I/O at 0x6000 [0x6001].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf0800000 [0xf0800000].
Bus 0, device 15, function 0:
Ethernet controller: LiteOn Unknown device (rev 37).
Vendor id=11ad. Device id=c115.
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 9. Master Capable. No bursts.
Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=56.
I/O at 0x6100 [0x6101].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf0801000 [0xf0801000].
Bus 0, device 16, function 0:
Host bridge: UMC UM8881F (rev 1).
Medium devsel. Master Capable. No bursts.
Bus 0, device 18, function 0:
ISA bridge: UMC UM8886A (rev 1).
Medium devsel. Master Capable. No bursts.
>
> > Do I need to recompile(for the first time solo) the kernel? If yes where will I
> > find the Storm/Debian(does it matter?) HOW-TO ? From here http://www.linuxdoc.org
>
> For one thing, look into kernel-package;
Where? on my CD? url?
> it's the preferred way to
> build kernels in Debian. It builds a couple of .deb files containing
> your kernel and modules that you install with dpkg -i mumble.deb
>
> The other thing to keep in mind is Storm's customizations. There's
> kernel-source and kernel-source-Storm, and the latter is what you need
> to preserve Stormix's pretty boot message and splash screens. Also
> see /etc/lilo.conf. That's part of it too.
>
> > When I issue the df -m command the output is:
> >
> > Filesystem MB-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on
> > /dev/hda2 460 150 286 34% /
> > /dev/hdb2 460 8 428 2% /var
> > /dev/hdc2 460 0 436 0% /home
> > /dev/hdd 479 479 0 100% /cdrom
> > /dev/fd0 1 0 1 0% /mnt
> >
> > With the drives I have and the described partitioning scheme is there enough room
> > for me to install Xwindows? How many mbs does X + Xpackages require? I'm thinking
>
> When I installed, the *whole* thing (Stormix) took up less than 500 Mb
> including swap. In the past, I've had a working X Window Linux in
> less than 50 Mb.
>
> However, if you're looking to do serious X Window development, with
> all the tools and development libraries, that may be another thing.
no just a window manager like KDE or Enlightenment maybe
>
>
> > it might be a little easier for a newbie like me to get things done, although I
> > understand it isn't necessary for a firewall machine.
> > Other partitioning scheme suggestions are welcome as it appears my idea may
> > inefficient use of available space?
>
> At least you won't be troubled by your / being beyond cyl 1024 :-)
>
> I'd skip the second and third swap, and buy ram.
I'm on a shoestring budget .....have you priced 72pin fast page ram lately - it's
triple
sdram
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 23:12:35 -0700
> Subject: Re: [SLU] Size does matter !
> From: "Carl B. Constantine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: SLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On 5/5/2000 19:01, Chuck Seiders at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I've an old 486DX4 -100mhz w/ 40mb RAM, 3 Western Digital 540mb IDE HDD's, 4x
> > IDE CD-ROM, 1.2 & 1.44 floppys, Iomega Ditto 420, 2 Linksys LNE10010 10/100
> > PCI NIC's and a Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM/S3 2mb video. I've been told this will
> > be just fine for a firewall for a 6-10 machine home network project. True or
> > False? I'll be sharing a cable modem internet connection to the networked
> > machines. So far so good?
>
> True. I can top that. I have a 486 DX4/100, 32MB RAM, no HD, CD-ROM (not
> hooked up, just there), boot from floppy. Using Edge FirePlug
> (edge.fireplug.net) as the firewall. Have 2 3c509 cards installed and a
> trident video card. Works like a hot darn! Edge is designed for Cable modems
> and xDSL setups. I'm on Cable myself.
Is Edge FirePlug a rule set?
> > I've burned the *rain* iso on to a cd-r and attempted to install it with a
> > partitioning scheme of: hda1=40mb<swap> hda2=475mb / hdb1=40mb<swap>
> > hdb2=475mb /var hdc1=40mb<swap> hdc2=475mb /home. Only Xwindows, internet
> > client and internet something? packages selected. Install bombed at 5% .
> > Rebooted tried again with same partitioning scheme, however, I didn't select
> > Xwindows this time and the install completed fine except the NIC's were not
> > detected/installed. I do not see them in /dev/ or /proc/ioports or
> > /proc/interrupts and finally, not in ifconfig. Do I need to recompile(for the
> > first time solo) the kernel? If yes where will > I find the Storm/Debian(does
> > it matter?) HOW-TO ? From here http://www.linuxdoc.org maybe?
>
> My first question is why did you partition it that way with 2 swaps like
> that. Unless you have lots of memory and need to separate the swap space,
> don't. Don't think that contributed to your problem as other have reported
> problems installing, but it's a weird setup for what you describe. The only
> time I had install probs was with the beta cycle. The release versions have
> all been good.
I was advised the separate swap on each of the three drives would boost performance on
these old drives?
> Do you have the latest ISO (version 1.4)? no 1.3 - I thought I could apt-get update
> after I got the firewall online?
> For the NICs, are they the ones you list above?
Yes the NIC's are Linksys LNE10010
> You may need to compile the
> kernel, I forget what comes default with Storm. Linuxdoc.org is a great
> resource to look for info like that. Also check out kernelnotes.org for
> information as well.
>
> > Now for the matter of size!
> >
> > When I issue the df -m command the output is:
> >
> > Filesystem MB-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on
> > /dev/hda2 460 150 286 34% /
> > /dev/hdb2 460 8 428 2% /var
> > /dev/hdc2 460 0 436 0% /home
> > /dev/hdd 479 479 0 100% /cdrom
> > /dev/fd0 1 0 1 0% /mnt
> >
> > With the drives I have and the described partitioning scheme is there enough
> > room for me to install Xwindows? How many mbs does X + Xpackages require? I'm
> > thinking it might be a little easier for a newbie like me to get things done,
> > although > I understand it isn't necessary for a firewall machine.
>
> In fact, DON'T put X on the firewall at all!!! JUST DON'T DO IT! If this
> whole set up is for the firewall machine you describe above, then check out
> Edge. It's a much better solution than what you're trying to do.
going there now.... Thanx
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