On a more serious note... I agree with Karen.

In fact... IMO its always better in marketing to differentiate yourself 
(and speak to your audience) with what you do well...

How about something like:
"Stripes:  The robust and intuitive Java web framework"

--Nikolaos


> 2010/10/28 Freddy Daoud <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>
>     > On the source forge page of Stripes I see the text:
>     >
>     > "Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck"
>     >
>     > I don't know what 'stripey' is, but I think 'suck' is really
>     > inappropriate
>     > language for a serious product as The Stripes Framework...
>     >
>     > http://sourceforge.net/projects/stripes/
>
>     Back in 2005, TheServerSide was the forum for many a web framework
>     animated flame war. People were finally realizing that Struts
>     was asking way too much work from the developer and doing way too
>     little work for the developer in return--others knew it all along--
>     and Tim Fennell's intelligent and insightful comments were signed
>     with a link to Stripes and the caption: "Because web development
>     doesn't have to suck." This caught my eye because it was a bold
>     statement.
>
>     Now, 2010 closing out, TSS is still the (a) site for animated
>     flame wars, Struts has been replaced by JSF which is just as bad,
>     but it takes a Spring vs Java EE thread; just your run-of-the-mill
>     "here's my new framework" post doesn't make people waste their
>     time anymore. Stripes has matured and perhaps, Karen, you are
>     right, we shouldn't use 'suck' in our tagline.
>
>     So, after all the brou-ha-ha-ha-ha of getting Stripes back
>     into action, let's hear suggestions for a new, catchy, witty,
>     smart, attractive tagline.
>
>     Don't ask for mine, I've already used it for a book title ;)
>
>     Cheers,
>     Freddy
>
>     
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>     Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North
>     America contest
>     Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S.
>     and Canada
>     $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in
>     marketing
>     Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi
>     Store
>     http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
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$10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing
Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store 
http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev
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