I agree.

I seem to recall there were problems releasing Struts 1.1 because of a hold
up getting a commons component released that struts was depending on. That
was understandable as various bits of struts were being moved over to
commons at the time. Maybe now thats been done there should be a policy of
only developing against "release" versions of commons code. That way commons
doesn't become something Struts has to wait on and its being developed
against stable fully tested commons components.

Niall

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hablutzel, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Struts
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Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 12:32 AM
Subject: RE: string concatenation


> So I'm a bit of a lurker here, but I wanted to put in my $.02.
>
> I'd rather see a dependency on efficiently implemented code in a single
place than either replicating the code or using a less efficient algorithm.
Replication just means that bugs in the code aren't fixed in all places,
adds confusion to users as to which version to leverage, and makes it harder
to introduce possible future code improvements. Trading memory for speed can
be a meaningless tradeoff in high-volume applications where the number of
GCs visibly impacts overall system performance.
>
> My preference would be for leveraging code that is in a logical place (ala
commons-lang) and documenting the dependencies.
>
> hab
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sun 2/15/2004 4:21 PM
> To: Struts Developers List
> Cc:
> Subject: RE: string concatenation
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 1:01 PM
> > To: Struts Developers List
> > Subject: RE: string concatenation
> >
> >
> > Struts has many dependencies already and I'd like to avoid adding one
with
> > lang.  Why not just size a large StringBuffer and trade memory for
speed?
>
> We already have a dependency on Lang, albeit indirectly, so why not take
> advantage of it?
>
> Frankly, I disagree with the push I see from some folks (including Craig
on
> commons-dev recently) to reduce dependencies between components by
> duplicating functionality. The whole point of Commons is to avoid
> duplication, so why are people pushing back against using the successful
> components that we helped create here in Struts?
>
> -- 
> Martin Cooper
>
>
> >
> > David
> >
> > --- Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Rather than add a new string utility class to Struts, which isn't
really
> > > where it should belong, I think we'd be better off just using this:
> > >
> > >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/lang/api/org/apache/commons/lang
> > /StringUti
> > > ls.html#join(java.lang.Object[])
> > >
> > > Alternatively, you could suggest (on the commons-dev list) adding a
> > > variation of your StringHolder class, based on the join() method
above,
> > > to
> > > Commons Lang.
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Martin Cooper
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > > From: nishant kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 5:46 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: string concatenation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hi,
> > > >   I have a performance tuning suggestion which i think will greatly
> > > > impact the performance of struts html tags.
> > > >   String concatenation using StringBuffer is definitely much
> > > > better than
> > > > using the plus operator but there are scenarios where there are much
> > > > better ways than using StringBuffers. Actually struts html tags fall
> > > in
> > > > those scenarios.
> > > >   So let me give you an example. this is the code from
> > > > renderFormStartElement method of FormTag.
> > > >
> > > > StringBuffer results = new StringBuffer();
> > > > results.append("<form");
> > > > results.append(" name=\"");
> > > > results.append(beanName);
> > > > results.append("\"");
> > > > results.append(" method=\"");
> > > > results.append(method == null ? "post" : method);
> > > > results.append("\" action=\"");
> > > > ....
> > > > str = results.toString();
> > > >
> > > > pageContext.getOut().write(str);
> > > >
> > > >   Now lets list the issues with this.
> > > > 1. first presizing this buffer is quite difficult (avoided in this
> > > > case). here the buffer starts with size 16 and doubles each time the
> > > > size is exceeded. This causes unnecessary creation of new char
arrays
> > > > and redundant copy of data whenever resizing happens.
> > > > 2. whenever append is called data is copied from the passed string
to
> > > > the end of stringbuffer.
> > > > 3. finally the whole concatenated data is again copied into another
> > > > string.
> > > > 4. and then in the end this string is written to a writer, another
> > > copy,
> > > > which is the only copy required.
> > > >
> > > > so even if you had presized the stringbuffer correctly, you have
> > > copied
> > > > the same data thrice instead of just once. And you also create two
NOT
> > > > needed objects.
> > > >
> > > >   so here is the solution i propose. have a class holding an array
of
> > > > Strings and keep appending strings to this array and finally print
> > > this
> > > > array to the writer. something like this.
> > > >
> > > > private String[] data = new String[256];
> > > > private int size = 0;
> > > >
> > > > public StringHolder append(String str){
> > > >   ensureCapacity(this.size + 1);
> > > >   this.data[this.size++] = str;
> > > >   return this;
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > public void writeTo(Writer out) throws IOException{
> > > >   for (int i = 0; i < this.size; i++){
> > > >           if (this.data[i] != null){
> > > >                   out.write(this.data[i]);
> > > >           }
> > > >   }
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > this way only the last copy takes place and you also avoid creating
so
> > > > much garbage.
> > > >
> > > > i have attached StringHolder class which does the above task and
also
> > > > the FormTag after making necessary modification to fit in this
class.
> > > > >From the code of FormTag you can see that you need to make quite
few
> > > > changes to get great benefit.
> > > >
> > > > i have also attached a better implementation of
> > > > ResponseUtils.filter(String) method. the logic is on the same lines
as
> > > > above.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > nishant
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > nishant kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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