For the record, Vic's company (BaseBeans) has been quietly supporting open source in 
ways like this for some 
time. They helped to fund my Struts Tips and I'm aware they have hired other 
developers to help code some 
independant Struts extensions and other open source utilitiies. BaseBeans also 
initiated the BasicPortal project 
on SourceForrge and hosts the Struts Newsgroups. BaseBeans definately  qualifies as a 
"good Struts customer".

http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/helping.html#corp

The "Bug Bounty" is a facinating idea, and it will be interesting to see how this pans 
out. 

-Ted.

10/21/2002 4:49:44 AM, "V. Cekvenich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>"offered only for reported bugs that don't already have a patch submitted."
>
>OK.
>Also I meant new fixes to the current bugs, not any new ones.
>
>It was meant to help people focus. I have no way of helping existing 
>contributors without being even more cheesy.
>And majority of people are doing it for many other reasons. There were 
>posts prior of people asking other people to step up and support Struts, 
>so I did.
>
>.V
>
>
>David Derry wrote:
>> Vic, this is a very generous offer, and I'm sure most appreciated. I'm
>> curious tho' how you came up with the figure of $135. When I want to come up
>> with a round figure I think of $100 or $150, maybe $125. I'm curious how you
>> arrived at the odd figure of $135.
>> 
>> That aside, I posted bug #13030 against Validaor. But at the time that I
>> posted it, I also posted a patch. I noticed this problem because when I got
>> into work that morning and started my app, Validator failed because the
>> Jakarta site was down. But stuts was able to initialize. I recalled seeing
>> postings on the users list that struts was able to use the DTDs in the jar
>> file. So I took the opportunity to determine how struts was able to do this
>> when Validator didn't. The patch that I submitted was very simple, and was
>> actually little more than a cut and paste from the struts initialization
>> code. Although, as I said, I appreciate and respect your offer, I would feel
>> ...... oh I don't know..............cheesy if I were to accept your offer.
>> There are any number of folks who have worked hard, and long hours I'm sure,
>> to make struts a success who deserve much more. The little that I have
>> contributed has already paid me back more than I have actually contributed,
>> merely from the knowledge that I gained making this patch. Also, it made me
>> feel REALLY GOOD to be able to contribute that little bit.
>> 
>> Another thing, and again I am not criticizing, your offer is extremely
>> generous; but in this case at least a patch was submitted at the time that
>> the bug was reported. Your reward, I feel, would be more effective if it was
>> offered only for reported bugs that don't already have a patch submitted.
>> That would provide insentive for someone to fix the problem. There really
>> isn't much insentive in the case where a patch has already been submitted.
>> 
>> So I would like to thank you for your offer, but it just doesn't seem right
>> to me that someome (like myself) could fix one little bug and get paid for
>> it when others have devoted so much time and effort for nothing more than th
>> e satifaction that they get, and the thanks of those whose jobs they have
>> made easier. I personally have benefited far more than I have contributed.
>> And I have learned a great deal from lurking on the mailing lists. That is
>> more than payment enough for me. I just wish that I was able to contribute
>> more.
>> 
>> I want to express my thanks, as well as my respect and admiration, for every
>> one who has worked so hard; who have sacrificed so much time and effort, to
>> make struts the great product that it is. I have learned a great deal from
>> you guys.
>> 
>> Dave Derry
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "V. Cekvenich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 8:03 PM
>> Subject: Bug reward $
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>I will send via pay pal $135 to each person that fixes at least one bug
>>>and e-mails me that they did + a link to bugzila, up to the first 6 real
>>>bugs, which is about 10% of bugs. (maybe a few more companies help focus
>>>funds on the release). I know it’s not much, but support can start
>>>someplace, I think a lot of companies would like to be the “Covalent” of
>>>Struts as would baseBeans … at least if you are just sitting home an
>>>have half a day to kill.
>>>There are about 46 bugs for Struts 1.1. I do not need a release of 1.1
>>>but I would like to sponsor some fixes, related to it, so don’t think it
>>>to cheesy.
>>>
>>>NOTE: you do not need to be a committer for this, you must submit the
>>>diff to bugzilla, but I will not have time to test, so I wish you good
>>>karma that you do test the fix. (A committer can then… commit should the
>>>code be acceptable)
>>>Any simple text DTD or doco fixes don’t count, and also I reserve the
>>>right not to pay for any reason ( I did sponsor prior some work by at
>>>least several others)
>>>I probably won’t list the people that do e-mail me that they did a
>>>patch, and do not have time to answer more questions.
>>>
>>>BeanUtils:  12728, 13596
>>>
>>>DBCP:  12047, 12400, 12733, 12869, 13155
>>>
>>>Digester:  12534
>>>
>>>Pool:  12841, 13649, 13705
>>>
>>>Validator:  13030, 13472, 13539
>>>+8787
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_sta
>> tus=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_seve
>> rity=Blocker&bug_severity=Critical&bug_severity=Major&bug_severity=Normal&bu
>> g_severity=Minor&email1=&emailtype1=substring&emailassigned_to1=1&email2=&em
>> ailtype2=substring&emailreporter2=1&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&changedin=&vot
>> es=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&product=Struts&version=1.1+Beta
>> +1&version=1.1+Beta+2&version=Nightly+Build&version=Unknown&short_desc=&shor
>> t_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file
>> _loc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&keywords=&keywords_type=anywords&fiel
>> d0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as
>> +last+time
>> 
>>>.V
>>>
>>>
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