Dave
From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README *********
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 01:05:37 -0500
Yes, I miss those features very much.
Although, since I upgraded my laptop to 1/2 a Gig of memory, now I can run
them both (or at least I can run two whole instances of Netscape 6.0 ;)
James Mitchell
Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
http://www.open-tools.org
"If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two strong oxen or
1024 chickens?"
- Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:37 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README *********
>
>
> I haven't shown Eclipse to one person who didn't like it. I'm a big fan,
> but before the IDE wars start again, let me say that it doesn't do jsp
> highlighting or jsp code completion out of the box. I understand
> NetBeans
> does and that's a plus.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README *********
> >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:21:26 -0500
> >
> >I must admit. Since the hoopla a few weeks ago about Eclipse this and
> >Eclipse that......I decided to download it and try it
> out......WOW!!!!!!!
> >I
> >was a big NetBeans advocate, but now I'm hooked on Eclipse and I haven't
> >looked back since.
> >
> >Can you believe how it resolves the import statements? Hell,
> you can just
> >delete them all, then select 'Organize Imports' and it will rip
> through the
> >classpath and group and fix all imports to what they should have
> >been........come on.....you gotta love that.
> >
> >My personal favorite....Hierarchy view, just F4 on a class, package, or
> >source folder and you get an instant overview (inheritance hieratical
> >treeview) from java.lang.Object to lowest subclass.....who needs
> a diagram
> >when you've got this?
> >
> >
> >James Mitchell
> >Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
> >http://www.open-tools.org
> >
> >"If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two
> strong oxen
> >or
> >1024 chickens?"
> >- Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:43 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README *********
> > >
> > >
> > > +1 on separating formatting from code changes. In my
> defense, several
> >of
> > > the files had import javax.servlet.* which violates the current import
> > > practice (a practice I disagree with but follow nonetheless).
> > > Also, some of
> > > the imports were no longer needed and Eclipse removed them. The
> > > tiles code
> > > in particular did not follow the java standard coding guidelines so I
> > > formatted those as well.
> > >
> > > I apologize for the inconvenience; from now on, I'll commit
> appropriate
> > > formatting changes separately.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README
> *********
> > > >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:06:22 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Since we are all bashing David (LOL...just kidding), may I make one
> >more
> > > >suggestion.
> > > >
> > > >Can we all agree to separate code changes with format changes?
> > > >
> > > >I usually check every commit to see if it impacts something
> I might be
> > > >working on (bug fix or personal dev) and as I was browsing
> my mail this
> > > >morning, I found that reading through a couple of "recent
> > > commits " <wink/>
> > > >was giving me a migraine. Finding the actual code changes was
> > > impossible.
> > > >
> > > >In fact, we probably should not be using our IDE's
> 'reformat' features
> > > >unless the current page formatting is complete crap. If we each
> >reformat
> > > >every time we open and change a file. We will see battles
> > > emerging between
> > > >JBuilder, NetBeans, Eclipse, and others.
> > > >
> > > >If that sounds feasible, I would also recommend to those of us just
> >using
> > > >text editors to turn off the 'trim trailing spaces' when
> saving. This
> > > >causes just as much of a headache.
> > > >
> > > >Your thoughts?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >James Mitchell
> > > >Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
> > > >http://www.open-tools.org
> > > >
> > > >"If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two
> > > strong oxen
> > > >or
> > > >1024 chickens?"
> > > >- Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:10 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You are right. I didn't wait long enough because I was making
> > > > > other changes
> > > > > and didn't want to get confused about which ones to commit.
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >To: "'Struts Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.*
> > > > > >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:49:49 -0800
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:30 AM
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Replacing Action.* with Globals.*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I committed the updates last night because I didn't hear
> > > > > > > anyone complain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I don't have a problem with the changes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I would like to point out, however, that you only waited 3 hours
> >for
> > > > > >feedback. Not all of us are in the same country, let
> alone the same
> > > >time
> > > > > >zone. Cedric, for example, had no hope of responding in
> > > time, unless he
> > > > > >happened to be reading Struts mail at around 3am his time (my
> > > >estimate).
> > > > > >Even those of us in an appropriate time zone are not all
> constantly
> > > > > >checking
> > > > > >mail to struts-dev.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Given your statement that you "would hate to do this and
> > > have to back
> > > >out
> > > > > >the changes" (which I understand :), I would suggest that you
> > > > > might want to
> > > > > >allow more time for people to respond before going ahead with
> > > > > changes like
> > > > > >this. Otherwise, you do leave yourself open to having to
> back out
> >the
> > > > > >changes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >Martin Cooper
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Replacing Action.* with Globals.*
> > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:41:04 -0600
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Well, we're headed toward using Globals instead of Action
> > > > > > > for this purpose,
> > > > > > > >so I'd think it would be highly desirable for the internal
> > > > > > > code to use
> > > > > > > >those constants located in Globals.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >... The Action constants can't go away yet (at least I
> > > > > > > believe that's the
> > > > > > > >decision that was arrived at), but I can't see where
> > > > > > > changing internal code
> > > > > > > >to use Global references over Action references
> would be a bad
> > > >thing.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >David Graham wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>Is it ok to replace the Action constant references with
> > > > > > > Globals constant
> > > > > > > >>references in the Struts code? I would hate to do this and
> > > > > > > have to back
> > > > > > > >>out the changes.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>Dave
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--
> > > > > > > >Eddie Bush
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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