Yes, I've seen that and others.

Even NetBeans cannot help me with taglib completion when working against my
local cvs repository (jakarta-struts).  Since the tlds are generated by the
build, I only get standard jsp code completion.  But heck, I'm not
complaining.  I was using Textpad for the longest time and let me tell
you.....Mark G. is right, you get to know the APIs quickly.


James Mitchell
Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
http://www.open-tools.org

"If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two strong oxen or
1024 chickens?"
- Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 1:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README *********
>
>
> There are plugins that attempt this feature but they are
> currently not very
> good.  Find the SolarEclipse project on sourceforge for one of these.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README *********
> >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 01:05:37 -0500
> >
> >Yes, I miss those features very much.
> >
> >Although, since I upgraded my laptop to 1/2 a Gig of memory, now
> I can run
> >them both (or at least I can run two whole instances of Netscape 6.0 ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >James Mitchell
> >Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
> >http://www.open-tools.org
> >
> >"If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two
> strong oxen
> >or
> >1024 chickens?"
> >- Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:37 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README *********
> > >
> > >
> > > I haven't shown Eclipse to one person who didn't like it.  I'm a big
> >fan,
> > > but before the IDE wars start again, let me say that it doesn't do jsp
> > > highlighting or jsp code completion out of the box.  I understand
> > > NetBeans
> > > does and that's a plus.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README
> *********
> > > >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:21:26 -0500
> > > >
> > > >I must admit.  Since the hoopla a few weeks ago about
> Eclipse this and
> > > >Eclipse that......I decided to download it and try it
> > > out......WOW!!!!!!!
> > > >I
> > > >was a big NetBeans advocate, but now I'm hooked on Eclipse and I
> >haven't
> > > >looked back since.
> > > >
> > > >Can you believe how it resolves the import statements?  Hell,
> > > you can just
> > > >delete them all, then select 'Organize Imports' and it will rip
> > > through the
> > > >classpath and group and fix all imports to what they should have
> > > >been........come on.....you gotta love that.
> > > >
> > > >My personal favorite....Hierarchy view, just F4 on a class,
> package, or
> > > >source folder and you get an instant overview (inheritance hieratical
> > > >treeview) from java.lang.Object to lowest subclass.....who needs
> > > a diagram
> > > >when you've got this?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >James Mitchell
> > > >Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
> > > >http://www.open-tools.org
> > > >
> > > >"If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two
> > > strong oxen
> > > >or
> > > >1024 chickens?"
> > > >- Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:43 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README
> >*********
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 on separating formatting from code changes.  In my
> > > defense, several
> > > >of
> > > > > the files had import javax.servlet.* which violates the current
> >import
> > > > > practice (a practice I disagree with but follow nonetheless).
> > > > > Also, some of
> > > > > the imports were no longer needed and Eclipse removed them.  The
> > > > > tiles code
> > > > > in particular did not follow the java standard coding
> guidelines so
> >I
> > > > > formatted those as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > I apologize for the inconvenience; from now on, I'll commit
> > > appropriate
> > > > > formatting changes separately.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README
> > > *********
> > > > > >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:06:22 -0500
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Since we are all bashing David (LOL...just kidding), may
> I make one
> > > >more
> > > > > >suggestion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Can we all agree to separate code changes with format changes?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I usually check every commit to see if it impacts something
> > > I might be
> > > > > >working on (bug fix or personal dev) and as I was browsing
> > > my mail this
> > > > > >morning, I found that reading through a couple of "recent
> > > > > commits " <wink/>
> > > > > >was giving me a migraine.  Finding the actual code changes was
> > > > > impossible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In fact, we probably should not be using our IDE's
> > > 'reformat' features
> > > > > >unless the current page formatting is complete crap.  If we each
> > > >reformat
> > > > > >every time we open and change a file.  We will see battles
> > > > > emerging between
> > > > > >JBuilder, NetBeans, Eclipse, and others.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >If that sounds feasible, I would also recommend to those
> of us just
> > > >using
> > > > > >text editors to turn off the 'trim trailing spaces' when
> > > saving.  This
> > > > > >causes just as much of a headache.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Your thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >James Mitchell
> > > > > >Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
> > > > > >http://www.open-tools.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two
> > > > > strong oxen
> > > > > >or
> > > > > >1024 chickens?"
> > > > > >- Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:10 PM
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.*
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are right.  I didn't wait long enough because I was making
> > > > > > > other changes
> > > > > > > and didn't want to get confused about which ones to commit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >To: "'Struts Developers List'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.*
> > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:49:49 -0800
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:30 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Replacing Action.* with Globals.*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I committed the updates last night because I didn't hear
> > > > > > > > > anyone complain.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I don't have a problem with the changes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I would like to point out, however, that you only waited 3
> >hours
> > > >for
> > > > > > > >feedback. Not all of us are in the same country, let
> > > alone the same
> > > > > >time
> > > > > > > >zone. Cedric, for example, had no hope of responding in
> > > > > time, unless he
> > > > > > > >happened to be reading Struts mail at around 3am his time (my
> > > > > >estimate).
> > > > > > > >Even those of us in an appropriate time zone are not all
> > > constantly
> > > > > > > >checking
> > > > > > > >mail to struts-dev.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Given your statement that you "would hate to do this and
> > > > > have to back
> > > > > >out
> > > > > > > >the changes" (which I understand :), I would suggest that you
> > > > > > > might want to
> > > > > > > >allow more time for people to respond before going ahead with
> > > > > > > changes like
> > > > > > > >this. Otherwise, you do leave yourself open to having to
> > > back out
> > > >the
> > > > > > > >changes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--
> > > > > > > >Martin Cooper
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List"
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > >To: Struts Developers List
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Replacing Action.* with Globals.*
> > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:41:04 -0600
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Well, we're headed toward using Globals instead of Action
> > > > > > > > > for this purpose,
> > > > > > > > > >so I'd think it would be highly desirable for
> the internal
> > > > > > > > > code to use
> > > > > > > > > >those constants located in Globals.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >... The Action constants can't go away yet (at least I
> > > > > > > > > believe that's the
> > > > > > > > > >decision that was arrived at), but I can't see where
> > > > > > > > > changing internal code
> > > > > > > > > >to use Global references over Action references
> > > would be a bad
> > > > > >thing.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >David Graham wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>Is it ok to replace the Action constant references with
> > > > > > > > > Globals constant
> > > > > > > > > >>references in the Struts code?  I would hate to do this
> >and
> > > > > > > > > have to back
> > > > > > > > > >>out the changes.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >>Dave
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >--
> > > > > > > > > >Eddie Bush
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
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