It's a trade-off. Many of the great plugins and such that are supplied with
a well developed (cross-platform) ide are far better in my book for
development at large. I only resort to emacs/vi/pico when i am editing files
on a server remotely. But, I am in control of all the code I write and I'm
not writing any perl or c/c++. Straight JAVA is what I write. So emacs is
not that efficient to me.

P.S. Eclipse is a great ide and has a format method that cleans up messy
java code quite nice. But, it lack great search and replace features that
emacs does have.

Brandon Goodin
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benjamin Tomasini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:15 AM
> To: Struts Developers List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts
>
>
> Normally a reader only in this list, but here are 2 cents...
>
> With a basic knowledge of Emacs, Ant, and Perl you can conquer the world
> faster than with any IDE I know of.  And conquer it from pretty much any
> shell - bash, X, even Windows!
>
> Plus, Emacs is great for cleaning up messy code.  Its indent feature in
> java-mode (cc-mode) is quite handy.
>
> On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 14:00, Eddie Bush wrote:
> > I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I much prefer Emacs.
> >  'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x terminal (or are on
> > windows) both of them are fairly easily used through their toolbars ...
> > at least, I think vim has one now (or can perhaps - nearly certain).  I
> > suppose that's for the "mortals" among us ;-O  I just go for
> the "arcane
> > key sequences" personally - so much more efficient.  One nifty thing I
> > really like about Emacs is that, sometimes I can remember the command
> > name but not it's key sequence - and it tells you what the sequence is
> > once you invoke it the "long" way.  So, I can keep important shortcuts
> > in my head, and, when I run across a situation that requires me to use
> > something that I don't recall the shortcut for, I can invoke it
> manually
> > and get a referesher on what the sequence is to invoke it.  I really
> > like that feature :-)  It works great so long as you can remember the
> > "command name" or ... at least have an idea (as it has completion
> > assistance for commands too).
> >
> > David Graham wrote:
> >
> > > I like vi now that I know how to use it but why couldn't they put
> > > common commands at the bottom of the screen for us mortals?
> > >
> > > David
> >
> >
> > --
> > Eddie Bush
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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