If Jasper is generating some inefficient code, would Jikes help?

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: Performance of struts


> I find the 240ms delay satisfactory for most of my apps because the
business
> side logic usually takes longer to execute.
>
> I applaud WebLogic however for their timings. Especially (IIRC) since
> WebLogic is supposed to be 100% Java. I know that some other servers that
> churn JSP very well are hybrids. It would be interesting to look at the
> Jasper-generated source and see where optimizations can be done.
>
> jim
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Schnitzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 11:24 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Performance of struts
> >
> >
> > Struts should suffer the same performance issues as WebWork.  There are
> > a handful of benchmarks here:
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=2243&group_id=14797#
> > Na96
> >
> > The relative performance on a tag-heavy benchmark:
> >
> > Tomcat 3.2: ~380 milliseconds
> > JRun 3.0: ~350 milliseconds
> > Resin 1.2.1: ~250 milliseconds
> > Orion 1.3.8: ~220 milliseconds
> > WebLogic Server 6.0: ~140 milliseconds
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Eric Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:58 PM
> > >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > >Subject: RE: Performance of struts
> > >
> > >
> > >I haven't done any comparisons recently, but I think Resin from
> > >www.caucho.com is very reasonably priced and written specifically with
> > >performance in mind (from what I can tell). I've written a
> > >Java based http
> > >proxy server before and I can tell you that from looking at some of the
> > >things Resin has done, they know where Java's performance
> > >bottlenecks are.
> > >(For example, they translate all socket streams into byte
> > >arrays instead of
> > >using strings, etc.) They have some performance comparisons on
> > >their web
> > >site.
> > >
> > >Others are:
> > >Orion - Know nothing about
> > >BEA WebLogic - Very expensive, complex to deploy and
> > >performance is mediocre
> > >according to my sources
> > >ATG Dynamo - Expensive but good for commerce if needed. They
> > >are focused on
> > >commerce, so probably not focused on performance.
> > >Netscape/iPlanet - I've heard the performance is not impressive
> > >IBM WebSphere - This is an up-and-coming competitor to
> > >WebLogic and ATG. It
> > >used to be buggy and is still expensive. Performance is
> > >unknown, but I would
> > >favor Resin as it comes with source and is less expensive.
> > >Jrun - Priced reasonably. Nice integration with other Allaire
> > >products. No
> > >special commerce features. I think it has had some
> > >compatibility problems,
> > >but it seems a good engine these days. All the same, I don't
> > >think you can
> > >get source and I haven't done performance tests.
> > >Enhydra - This is just Tomcat. They have their own framework
> > >that is less
> > >comprehensive than struts called XMLC. Its big advantage is
> > >that it does a
> > >better job of separating UI from code.
> > >
> > >I think to some degree, it is equally important to look at the
> > >JVM you are
> > >running on. Consider looking at the Volano report at
> > >http://www.volano.com/report.html.
> > >
> > >My team is using Tomcat/Forte for development and will use
> > >Resin/Apache for
> > >deployment.
> > >
> > >Eric
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: James Howe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:16 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: Performance of struts
> > >
> > >If Tomcat's performance is pretty awful, what are some JSP
> > >implementations
> > >(commercial or otherwise) that are particularly good?
> > >
> > >At 12:10 PM 3/19/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> > >
> > >>Struts based apps (or any app that uses custom tags heavily)
> > >are going to
> > >>be significantly impacted by the quality of the JSP
> > >implementation in your
> > >>container.  Which version are you using?  (NOTE:  Tomcat's performance
> > >>w.r.t. JSP pages is pretty awful, for example).
> > >>
> > >> > Thanks!
> > >> > keith
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>Craig McClanahan
> > >
> > >James W. Howe                   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Allen Creek Software, Inc.              pgpkey:
> > >http://ic.net/~jwh/pgpkey.html
> > >Ann Arbor, MI 48103
> > >
> >
>
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