bet on Swahili ;) Regards, Taati > -----Original Message----- > From: Leonardo Maciel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:51 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: RE: stuts-config.xml file > > I thought it was Polish notation > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Barefoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:52 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: RE: stuts-config.xml file > > > Like I said, no negative criticism or finger-pointing from my quarter, > just > an observation. Thanks for telling me this--it actually bolsters my > point. > They probably settled on these terms because they were familiar to people > who were hip to the "current nomenclature" at the time. > > Ah, screw it, let's just use Hungarian notation for > everything--everybody's > familiar with it, right?! > (just kidding) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 1:11 PM > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > > Subject: RE: stuts-config.xml file > > > > > > The Struts team didn't invent these terms - they adapted them from > (then) > > current nomenclature. For example, see David Geary's "Advanced > JavaServer > > Pages," Chapter 6 (Sun/Prentice-Hall, 2001). > > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joseph Barefoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 3:04 PM > > > > I agree 100% with Muki's observations. Some of the Struts tag-libs also > > suffer from similar non-intuitive naming schemes. Identifiers should be > > meaningful and descriptive, period, no matter what file format or local > > context they are found in. > > > > This is not a negative criticism, so everyone sheath their fangs > > please; it > > is a common problem of our industry that intimate familiarity can create > > results that lack clarity for those without that degree of familiarity. > > Unfortunately, we don't have enough time to become experts at > everything, > > else this would not be an issue. > > > > ...but at least with Struts, it's well-documented. :) Were it not for > the > > comprehensive JavaDocs, I would've been in serious trouble. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Soomar, Muki (R.) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:43 AM > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > > > Subject: RE: stuts-config.xml file > > > > > > > > > Leonardo, > > > Make sense for the cross-reference in the <form-bean> element. I am > not > > > too hung up on anything - really, just that I had to scratch my > > > head a few times > > > on some of the element names and their attribute names, which > completely > > > defeats the purpose of XML config files. XML has to be readable > > > ..and understandable, > > > as should any code be - right ? ;) > > > > > > Muki > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Leonardo Maciel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:33 PM > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > Subject: RE: stuts-config.xml file > > > > > > > > > > > > The javadocs has a brief explanation of the properties defined on > > > struts-config.xml > > > See Class ActionMapping at: > > > http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/doc-1.0.2/api/index.html > > > > > > > > > For me, the only not too intuitive tag is "name". > > > But since it is a reference to the form name declared on the > > > <form-bean> section it sounds good enough. Definitely not "form-class" > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:28 PM > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > Subject: Re: stuts-config.xml file > > > > > > > > > Muki-- > > > > > > The names in the config files/DTDs can seem very > > > counter intuitive. Managing the files by hand in > > > general is cumbersome and that's why I developed the > > > Struts Console software. > > > > > > http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/ > > > > > > I'm adding some functionality in the near future that > > > will give explanations for each element and their > > > attributes thus making it easier for newbies to get up > > > to speed. > > > > > > -james > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > --- "Soomar, Muki (R.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I am still new to struts and going through the > > > > documentation. > > > > Here are some general questions for the gurus who > > > > understand the > > > > DTDs for struts-config.xml file and its usage. > > > > > > > > <action> element > > > > 1. Why is the attribute "type" for the <action> > > > > element named so. Wouldnt > > > > the attribute name "action-class" be more intuitive > > > > here ? > > > > > > > > 2(a). Attribute "name" for the same <action> element > > > > refers to the > > > > form. Again "form-class" would have been more > > > > intuitive. > > > > > > > > 2(b) Attribute "attribute" also refers to the form > > > > class for the example application. > > > > I am confused between the usage of the two. (Still > > > > need to do a bit more digging, > > > > but intuitive attribute names would have helped in > > > > the first reading very much !) > > > > > > > > 3. Attribute "input" is intuitive, but "input-uri" > > > > or "input-url" would have been > > > > more intuitive > > > > > > > > 4. Sub-element <forward> has attribute "name" that > > > > refers to the type of > > > > result based on which forwards could be redirected. > > > > Wouldnt it be simpler > > > > to just call this attribute "result-type" instead of > > > > "name". > > > > > > > > Any particular reasons for this naming convention. I > > > > just figured, I have > > > > to carry another mapper in my head to figure out the > > > > true meaning of these > > > > attributes. Maybe, I need to interpret them in a > > > > different manner. > > > > > > > > Any feed back would be much appreciated. Thanks and > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Muki Soomar > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! 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