Oh boy, now I've got information overload! Fortunately there's a link in 
Chuck Cavaness's book to an article reviewing & comparing some of them - 
although strangely they include Forte for Java from Sun instead of JDO. 
Well, I can see what I'm going to be doing this weekend.

Regards
Adam




Steve Muench wrote:

>Oracle's J2EE Framework "Business Components for Java"
>makes it very easy to read and write from collections
>of values objects (sourced from the database) with
>automatic interaction with business objects that
>centralize your business rules, and handles the OR mapping
>for your business objects. You pick the "shape" of
>the data you need in your view layer, and it implements
>all of the handlers for your value object collections
>and optionally makes the value objects in these
>collections transparently updateable, delegating 
>changes back through your business object layer
>with no yucky code you have to write yourself.
>
>A whitepaper on all the capabilities is at:
>
>http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
>
>If you've read the O'Reilly Struts book sample chapters
>on TheServerSide.com, basically all of the Model Layer things
>that Chuck describes in Chapter 6, "Struts Model Components"
>as necessary pieces for your working Struts-with-Database-
>and-Business-Logic application, the BC4J framework
>implements for you. You basically just tell it the
>tables you want to work with (for your BO layer), or
>forward generate those tables from a BO object model
>that you design, and then tell it what queries your
>view layer needs to perform.
>
>You don't need to write model layer plumbing code.
>
>  -> Don't bother writing Value Object classes
>
>  -> Don't bother writing JDBC code for queries
>
>  -> Don't bother writing a class to expose your
>     collections of value objects to the view layer
>
>All of these things are done for you.
>
>Plus, it works with any SQL database, not only Oracle. :-)
>
>I'm planning a whitepaper that specifically illustrates
>how to couple Struts with BC4J next.
>
>__________________________________________________________________
>Steve Muench - Developer, Product Mgr, Java/XML Evangelist, Author
>Simplify J2EE and EJB Development with BC4J
>http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/htdocs/j2ee_bc4j.html
>Building Oracle XML Apps, www.oreilly.com/catalog/orxmlapp
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>Subject: Re: Design Advice - Relational Databases & Java Objects
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>| 
>| 
>| 
>| Adam -
>| 
>| Have you looked at Torque from the Jakarta Tubine project?
>| 
>| I haven't used it but have heard good things about it. It provides an
>| ability to perform O/R mapping using an XML configuration file - and (as I
>| understand) it creates Java files for you that implement a peristence
>| layer.
>| 
>| FWIW -
>| Kevin
>| 
>| 
>| 
>| 
>| Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 05/29/2002 12:44:28 PM
>| 
>| Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
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>| Subject:  Design Advice - Relational Databases & Java Objects
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>| 
>| Hi All,
>| 
>| I saw this thread in the archives and I thought I'd pinch the title.
>| I've spent this afternoon surfing the web looking at stuff on Sun,
>| Jakarta  and lots of smaller sites looking for a ready-made data access
>| layer package but I take it there isn't an open-source one out there.
>| 
>| Obviously I don't want to tie my data access layer to struts, so there
>| are a few questions I've got.
>| 
>| (1) Is it best for the data access layer to throw exceptions on error to
>| be picked up by the business objects & then struts actions, or would it
>| be good to use a struts-type message object and use strings in the
>| application resources file (I'm just worried my exceptions' text would
>| not be multi-lingual)
>| 
>| (2) How would I get the database connection info to the data access
>| layer? Presuming I want to set it up in struts-config.xml or as in
>| commons-dbcp, would I then pass it in from struts actions into the
>| business object and then into the data access layer as a parameter on
>| each call?
>| 
>| 
>| 
>| I've seen quite a few patterns like www.martinfowler.com and code like
>| in Sun's Pet Store, so I think I've got a fairly good idea of what I
>| need. The data access layer I want has got to:
>| 
>| - take as input and return as output Data Transport Objects
>| - allow the business objects to control transactions
>| - use a connection pool
>| - possibly keep the SQL statements in an external XML file
>| - have comprehensive error handling & reporting
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