Heh, that is a wrong use of "[sic]"! ///;-) At 10:58 AM 8/26/2002 -0700, you wrote: >hmmm...Just noticed your [sic] after wiping morning crud from my >eyes. Your grammatical faux pas was illustrative, not accidental. Nice. > >peace, >Joe > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joe Barefoot > > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 10:48 AM > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > Subject: RE: using O/R mapping tools > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:01 PM > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > > > Subject: RE: using O/R mapping tools > > > > > > > > > As I pointed out, it's a common mistake. I have a graduate minor in > > > statistics, so it's just a pet peeve and nothing more. I > > > could care less > > > [sic] about your grammar. > > > > > > I hardly think it's a mistake if one uses the term and > > everyone in the room assumes the popular meaning except the > > one person who dogmatically clings to the diagram in their > > old college psychology textbook. Speaking of pet peeves, to > > be gramatically accurate, it's "couldn't care less". To say > > that you "could care less" implies that you care plenty > > already. :) > > > > > > b.t.w., here's what most people envisage when they think > > "steep learning curve". All the textbooks and mailing list > > arguments in the world aren't going to change that. > > > > > > Effort > > | - - - > > | - > > | - > > | - > > | - > > | - > > | - > > | - > > | - > > |___________________________________ > > > > Proficiency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 2:54 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: using O/R mapping tools > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmmm. > > > > > > I just could not stomach it so I did some checkng... > > > > > > > > > Read this one first... > > > Common sense warns that there is no advantage to using a word > > > correctly > > > if you know that the vast majority of your hearers will > > misunderstand > > > your meaning. Consider the terms "thumbs up" and "thumbs > > down": Most > > > people are aware that these expressions derive from the > > > ancient public > > > entertainments at the Roman Colosseum, where the presiding official > > > would rule on whether a vanquished gladiator should be spared > > > or slain. > > > But did you know that "thumbs up" was the sign for "kill him" > > > and thumb > > > sideways was the sign for "let him live"? So when someone > > > tells you that > > > your project got the thumbs up from upper management, should > > > you start > > > checking the help-wanted ads? We > > > http://www.crh.noaa.gov/library/Grammar/Learn-curve.html > > > > > > > > > Every result except for the above shows a steep learning > > > curve as a bad > > > thing... Right or wrong, its common usage... > > > > > > I want to go home... > > > > > > > > > STEEP LEARNING CURVE > > > Rookie Quarterback Zolman Tackles Complicated Scheme > > > Things aren't entirely different. That's the positive part > > > now for Greg > > > Zolman - part of the positive part, anyway. Here's the tricky > > > part: What > > > he's learning is very complicated. > > > http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=711 > > > > > > > > > BUSH IS ON A STEEP LEARNING CURVE, JUST LIKE THE REST OF US > > > George W Bush appears to be on a near-vertical global > > learning curve. > > > And it is not just him. In the past two weeks the world has been > > > changing astonishingly quickly beneath our feet and > > commentators are > > > running to keep up. > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,558293,00.html > > > > > > > > > Myth: ODBMSs have a steep learning curve > > > The myth that ODBMSs have a steep learning curve is easily > > dispelled. > > > Using an ODBMS primarily involves knowing an object programming > > > language. For examples, see transparent persistence (new window). > > > If you know Java or C++, there is very little additional > > > syntax that you > > > need to learn in order to use an ODBMS. There are > > additional database > > > commands for opening and closing databases along with starting and > > > committing transactions. But that is about all -- hardly a steep > > > learning curve. If you do not know Java or C++, there is learning > > > involved. That learning, however, involves mastering the > > programming > > > language and not the ODBMS. > > > http://www.odbmsfacts.com/articles/myth_odbms_have_a_steep_lea > > > rning_curve.ht > > > ml > > > > > > > > > Steep learning curve > > > First-time users of Finale can expect to invest weeks or > > even months > > > learning how to drive this thing. And, unlike a bicycle, you > > > can easily > > > forget how to do it if away from it for a while. > > > Finale is complicated, powerful, and often non-intuitive in > > > its design, > > > although ease of use improves perceptibly with each release. > > > Coda seems > > > to listen to its customers on questions of interface and features. > > > http://www.research.umbc.edu/eol/5/signell/steep.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 2:35 PM > > > To: struts-user > > > Subject: RE: using O/R mapping tools > > > > > > > > > Yep. Think of the y axis as productivity and the x axis as > > > time. You > > > want > > > a curve going from 0.0 to max-y,min-x. This would plot out > > > as a "steep" > > > curve, indicating learning the most in the smalled amount of time. > > > > > > A "flat" curve is the opposite - learn very little over a > > considerable > > > amount of time. > > > > > > Thus, a "steep" learning curve means it was "easy;" a > > "flat" learning > > > curve > > > means it was difficult. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 2:21 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: using O/R mapping tools > > > > > > > > > Really? Thats &*#(@!-up... Are you sure? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 2:00 PM > > > To: struts-user > > > Subject: RE: using O/R mapping tools > > > > > > > > > You mean "flat." Common mistake.... A steep learning curve is > > > desirable. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:57 PM > > > > > > I found the initial learning curve to be rather steep. I > > > blame this on > > > my using an outdated version of my JDBC driver. It "seemed > > hard" at > > > first simply because of that. In reality, had I built my > > JDBC driver > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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