Next we'll be talking about teletypes and punched paper tape. Ahhh, the good, old days.
Bryan P.S. My first computer was an Apple ][+ (you have to use the brackets...), and it saw me through the latter half of high school and college. I bought a daisywheel printer, and my teachers were in awe of my "typing abilities." ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Owen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [OT][ALT-TECH] Apple Web Objects Maybe I can generate some nostalgia as well : My family got an Apple II+ when I was about 8. Immediately, I began toying around with it to play games (sometimes educational) and eventually (around age 9 or 10) I stumbled upon Nibble, Byte and Compute magazines. I would badger my Dad to take me to the local library to get the latest issues. When we went to big cities like Seattle, New York and Chicago, I would make sure we went by the "big" libraries so that I could Xerox as many source listings as humanly possible. I didn't have a hard drive (duh) and I would code in BASIC under Apple's Pro-Dos. Some of the listings were in assembler and I could never get my folks to buy me one. I figured out that I could drop into a command-line assembler (lol, actually probably just an interface to machine code) by crashing Pro-Dos during boot - then I could enter those listings. I could never figure out how to save work as I went, so I had to code them exactly right so that I could save them at the end or I would just be wasting time. Many of the listings had errors or parts left to be implemented later and I took those as challenges, since there was no guarantee that I would see the next issue soon enough to be of use. By age 11, I had learned Pascal and had become an expert at hex-editing Apple II applications. ;) A few years later I got an Apple IIGS for Christmas, I think. I dorked around with it until I got to college and upgraded to a Mac IIsi (that's where you REALLY date yourself Mark ;) ). I messed around with Pascal until I learned c later that year and eventually migrated to c++, assembler. I picked up on Java about 3-4 years ago and only over the last 2 years have I gotten to really work with it professionally. John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>