we are taught patterns in programming through example, which means we learn about it one day in lecture, then we get an absurdly complex assignment to make sure we not only know the pattern, but to also make sure that we have no social life. I can't complain though, the program is nationally accreditted :-)
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From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Yup, we learned algoritms and state machines. I know that we didn't learn
patterns.
I am so glad that we did learn about state machines, because they are
wonderful for web applications.
Simon
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:45 PM
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>We were taught algorithms and finite state machines, but I
>don't remember
>any design pattern coverage. I graduated in 1994 and other
>than that, they
>perfectly prepared me for my future as a developer. We covered
>many software
>design principles in my Software Engineering classes, but the
>memory is so
>vague that I can't recall if anything was categorized into patterns.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chappell, Simon P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:33 PM
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>I have no idea whether they teach patterns in University. I
>graduated in
>1990 and we didn't even have the Internet back then let alone Patterns!
>
>Jacob: How about it my friend? Do they teach patterns in the UW?
>
>Simon
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Wendy Smoak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:29 PM
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>>Subject: RE: DAO or ... ?
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>>
>>> It's called experience .... it's why they pay us old guys
>>more than you
>>young bucks! ;-)
>>
>>LOL! It's also called being absolutely CERTAIN that someone
>>has solved this
>>problem before, and not going off reinventing the wheel. As
>>an aside, are
>>patterns being taught in computer science? I'm working on a
>>degree and the
>>senior-level course I'm taking this semester has been the
>>first time I've
>>seen a lecture about them. And then he only covered three (Factory,
>>Abstract Factory and Singleton) and not very in depth at that.
>>
>>I like Applied Java Patterns by Stephen Stelting & Olav
>>Maassen. While the
>>GoF book is surely timeless, I'm guessing the examples are not
>>written in
>>Java. With Applied Java Patterns (and Core J2EE Patterns) I
>>can cut and
>>paste and have a head start on the implementation.
>>
>>--
>>Wendy Smoak
>>Applications Systems Analyst, Sr.
>>Arizona State University PA Information Resources Management
>>
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