Being 8 years old when I did this for my Apple II (using Compute! and Nibble magazines), I can't say that I remember patterns. ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Trevino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:08 AM Subject: RE: DAO or ... ?
> I remember learning about patterns while programming my Sinclair ZX81 > and copying programs out of Compute! magazine for my C64. LOL. > > On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 16:02, Jerry Jalenak wrote: > > You guys have it lucky to even know what a pattern is. I graduated with a > > C.S. degree in 1983 - object oriented programming barely existed then, let > > alone taught. Matter of fact we were required to learn IBM Assembler, and > > either COBOL or PL/1 as a graduation requirement! If I remember right, my > > "Software Engineering" class dealt with writing a basic compiler for a > > COBOL-type language (written in assembler, or course). You ought to be > > where I am trying to play catch-up on all of this Java / web / struts / .... > > stuff while trying to deliver projects on time and budget! > > > > Jerry > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:45 PM > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > > Subject: Re: DAO or ... ? > > > > > > > > > We were taught algorithms and finite state machines, but I > > > don't remember > > > any design pattern coverage. I graduated in 1994 and other > > > than that, they > > > perfectly prepared me for my future as a developer. We > > > covered many software > > > design principles in my Software Engineering classes, but the > > > memory is so > > > vague that I can't recall if anything was categorized into patterns. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Chappell, Simon P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:33 PM > > > Subject: RE: DAO or ... ? > > > > > > > > > I have no idea whether they teach patterns in University. I > > > graduated in > > > 1990 and we didn't even have the Internet back then let alone > > > Patterns! > > > > > > Jacob: How about it my friend? Do they teach patterns in the UW? > > > > > > Simon > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Wendy Smoak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:29 PM > > > >To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > > > >Subject: RE: DAO or ... ? > > > > > > > > > > > >> It's called experience .... it's why they pay us old guys > > > >more than you > > > >young bucks! ;-) > > > > > > > >LOL! It's also called being absolutely CERTAIN that someone > > > >has solved this > > > >problem before, and not going off reinventing the wheel. As > > > >an aside, are > > > >patterns being taught in computer science? I'm working on a > > > >degree and the > > > >senior-level course I'm taking this semester has been the > > > >first time I've > > > >seen a lecture about them. And then he only covered three (Factory, > > > >Abstract Factory and Singleton) and not very in depth at that. > > > > > > > >I like Applied Java Patterns by Stephen Stelting & Olav > > > >Maassen. While the > > > >GoF book is surely timeless, I'm guessing the examples are not > > > >written in > > > >Java. With Applied Java Patterns (and Core J2EE Patterns) I > > > >can cut and > > > >paste and have a head start on the implementation. > > > > > > > >-- > > > >Wendy Smoak > > > >Applications Systems Analyst, Sr. > > > >Arizona State University PA Information Resources Management > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > This transmission (and any information attached to it) may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the transmission to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this transmission in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify LabOne at (800)388-4675. > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
