Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

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My last JSP job did not suffer that problem -- the graphics designer also did 100% of the JSP work. This on a post 1.0.2 nightly with integrated nested extensions (I had convinced the client on the benefits of the nested extension and they prefered integrated rather than in a separate package). The data architect did 100% of the database work (and some of the use case work -- he was quite good at high-level analysis). The programmers did 100% of the coding. The only aberration was me (the chief architect) -- not only did I do analysis through detailed design (using TogetherJ for class and sequence diagrams), I also did a fair amount of coding.

Contrast that with my last .NET job: The graphics designers did strictly static HTML work. The converion to dynamic HTML, database work and coding was shared by everyone else (not much of a design to start with).

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Haha!
This whole idea of J2EE where we have seperation of roles hasn't quite happened has it. The idea that there are business process programmers, database programmers, front end guys etc. In the end it's always the same person fulfilling all the roles.

On the projects that I have been on in the past Graphic designers have been comissioned to make up the pages, which are done statically. Then the programmers have gone through the pains of making these pages dynamic.

Regards
IV

from: Foong Tzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 13:31:26
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subject: Re: Struts: a Graphic Artist blessing or curse?

Dear Struts supporter,

There seems to be a real world problem with using Struts (well, not
really Struts, but JSP Tag Libraries). It seems despite zero java coding
on the JSP pages, those 'funny' tags are still not digest-able by average
graphic designers. I mean, if they were to use Macromedia DreamWeaver, it
would not've rendered the look and feel if the tags were something like
this: -

<html:img page="/nice.gif" altKey="Nice"/>

<html:html locale="true"> </html:html>

<html:link page="/another.jsp"><bean:message
key="another.title"/></html:link>


As opposed to the native standard HTML tags?

I'm really not sure whether Macromedia or any other popular graphic
artiste tool would render these Struts JSP pages properly. Anybody here
has any experience solving this real world problem?

Thanks. Any help would be much appreciated.
Regards,

Tzer
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