What about management? I'm sure they liked the idea of saving alot of money. But how did they respond to open source solutions?
-----Original Message----- From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:28 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE) most of the process took about 6 months, which isn't bad at all in my opinion. as far as opposition is concered, we got some from the chronologically challenged members of the team but alas, they were outnumbered. my only wish is that jEdit would improve its vi plugin. then the circle would really be complete. -----Original Message----- From: Vinh Tran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:31 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE) Wow...that is quite a transition. I'm curious to know if these changes were met with alot of opposition? How long did it take? Vinh -----Original Message----- From: Pani, Gourav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:51 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE) Suddenly my life doesn't look so bad. :) When I first started working for my company we were using Websphere Application Server, Websphere Application Developer, Oracle/DB2 on Unix servers. Now we use Struts, Apache, Resin, jEdit, SAPDB/POSTGRESQL/MySQL on Red Hat Linux. Not bad. -----Original Message----- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:45 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE) I wear jeans. (Although I do buy them from the company at a very reasonable discount) >-----Original Message----- >From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:40 AM >To: Struts Users Mailing List >Subject: RE: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE) > > >So, do you have to pay for your own uniforms, or does the >company supply >them? > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 22:31 >To: Struts Users Mailing List >Subject: [OT] Standardised Environments (was RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE) > > >Our management (I won't say leadership, for reasons that will >be obvious to >experienced IS developers) also have the belief that standardisation is >good. We are having our J2EE workstations defined to the n'th >degree and >they will all be locked down so that you can't change >anything. You can't >even change your windows wallpaper!!! Our IDE is defined, >you'd better like >it because you can't install anything else. All in the sacred name of >productivity. > >Anyone else out there going through this or have advice to share? > >I am planning to bring my personal laptop to work to do any of >my tinkering >on. I like to think that my tinkering is helpful to the >company, but you >wouldn't think so from these new policies. This past year, I >have introduced >to the company's IS environment four new tools that I >evaluated by tinkering >with in those downtimes between projects. Specifically, these tools are >Struts (hey, you know I like Struts! :-), ant, junit and >Cygwin. The funny >thing, to me, is that these tools evaluated by tinkering are >going to be >part of the new locked down standard! Gotta laugh. > >Simon > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:39 AM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers >> >> >>Hi all, >> I do appreciate all feedback posted here in this list. >> Well, i am only executing orders. I don't intend to obligate >>everybody to adopt my >>recomendations. >>My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So, >>order is order. >> I think his concern about this task is to improve >>productivity. So, what is more productive? >> Following our discussion, does someone have experience >>writing Eclipse plugins? How difficult is >>this kind of task? >> >>Best regards, >> Daniel. >> >> >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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