Here, Here, Here.  I did not say this as well, but well said (Spec the
CakeBread)

Dan
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Subject: RE: [OT] Modeling tools


The best California wines in my long flirtation with the nectar are anything
from Cakebread Cellars, and any cabernet sauvignon (Bordeaux grape) from the
Russian River Valley.  These vineyards truly rival the best the French have,
and you don't have to get upset drinking them because the growers support
getting rid of Suddam Insane.


Mark Galbreath
Principal Consultant
Workflow Process Engineering and Systems Integration
http://www.QAT.com
410-703-367 / 800-799-8545
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by
stupidity."  ~Hanlon's Razor


-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Jaffa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 2:53 PM
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To name a few at my house, but I agree that French wines are better. But
California is getting close.  And Australia is also getting close.

Diamond Creek 1985 VH Cabernet Sauvignon, , Beringer 1997 Private Reserve
Cabernet Sauvignon, Opus One 1999 Opus One



> > But we are catch up quickly, just look at the quality of Californian
> >wines, they sucked in the 80's and now that are almost as
tasty
> > as French wines.
>
> I don't think you can "compare" with nice french wines (or you have
> try only bad french wine) ;) Let's drink a Mouton Rotschild, Pétrus,
> Chateau Margaux ....
>
> >
> >
> > Mark Galbreath
> > Principal Consultant
> > Workflow Process Engineering and Systems Integration
> >
> > http://www.QAT.com
> > 410-703-367 / 800-799-8545
> >
> > "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by
> > stupidity."  ~Hanlon's Razor
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:38 AM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: [OT] Modeling tools
> >
> >
> > And we all know that in the U.S. that there is no such thing as a
> > good
> beer!
> > :-P
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Robert McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:27 AM
> > >To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > >Subject: Re: [OT] Modeling tools
> > >
> > >
> > >I agree, especially for collaboration. A whiteboard is a good
> > >developer's best friend (short of a good beer)...
> > >
> > >- Robert
> > >
> > >Chappell, Simon P wrote:
> > >
> > >>It's called a whiteboard (or greaseboard if you fixate about
> > >not refering to colours when describing inanimate objects) and it
> > >does a better job of what I use Rose for than Rose does.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >>>Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:30 AM
> > >>>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > >>>Subject: RE: [OT] Modeling tools
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>There is no alternative to Rose.
> > >>>
> > >>>Mark Galbreath
> > >>>Principal Consultant, Workflow Process Engineering and Systems
> > >>>Integration http://www.QAT.com
> > >>>410-703-367 / 800-799-8545
> > >>>
> > >>>"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained
> > >>>by stupidity."  ~Hanlon's Razor
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>From: Durham David Cntr 805CSS/SCBE
> > >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >>>Sent: Monday, February
> > >>>10, 2003 10:04 AM
> > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>Subject: [OT] Modeling tools
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Wondering what kind of modeling tools you would recommended. I'm
> > >>>looking for alternatives to Rational Rose and Poseidon.  Thanks.
> > >>>
> > >>>-Dave
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