On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Will Etson wrote:
> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:53:34 -0800 > From: Will Etson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [OT] Modeling tools > > +1 > > >>> "Victor Soares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/10/03 02:34PM >>> > American beer is devoid of flavor!!?? That's true if you think Bud Light is the >representative of American beer. > > You really do need to visit the west coast, my friend.... Portland, Oregon in >particular. There are more tasty microbrews than you can shake a stick at. I'll >personally take you on a tour. Unfortunately for you, the beer will be chilled... but >we can leave your pint out and let it warm up. ;) > > Do I hear seconds for a STRUTS convention in Portland, Oregon? > Well, the O'Reilly Open Source conference is here in July ... and I do know where to get some of that good beer ... > - vic Craig > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/10/03 02:13PM >>> > Drinking warm beer is possible when there is flavour in there in the first place. >Yankee beer is devoid of flavour and then they chill it! Might as well drink mineral >water. > > No serious red-wine drinker would drink it chilled. Each beverage has it's agreed >optimum drinking temperature. To use a non-alcholic example, tea should be drunk hot >and with milk in it. What those southerners do to it should be federally prohibited! > > Simon > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: alexj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:08 PM > >To: Struts Users Mailing List > >Subject: Re: [OT] Modeling tools > > > > > >I will try this one ;) , I heard some Australian wine are > >pretty good to. > >(but I can't understand how English guy can drink warm beer lol) > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mark Galbreath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 8:59 PM > >Subject: RE: [OT] Modeling tools > > > > > >The best California wines in my long flirtation with the > >nectar are anything > >from Cakebread Cellars, and any cabernet sauvignon (Bordeaux > >grape) from the > >Russian River Valley. These vineyards truly rival the best > >the French have, > >and you don't have to get upset drinking them because the > >growers support > >getting rid of Suddam Insane. > > > > > >Mark Galbreath > >Principal Consultant > >Workflow Process Engineering and Systems Integration > >http://www.QAT.com > >410-703-367 / 800-799-8545 > >"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by > >stupidity." ~Hanlon's Razor > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Daniel Jaffa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 2:53 PM > >To: Struts Users Mailing List > >Subject: Re: [OT] Modeling tools > > > > > >To name a few at my house, but I agree that French wines are > >better. But > >California is getting close. And Australia is also getting close. > > > >Diamond Creek 1985 VH Cabernet Sauvignon, , Beringer 1997 > >Private Reserve > >Cabernet Sauvignon, Opus One 1999 Opus One > > > > > > > >> > But we are catch up quickly, just look at the quality of > >Californian > >> >wines, they sucked in the 80's and now that are almost as > >tasty > >> > as French wines. > >> > >> I don't think you can "compare" with nice french wines (or you have > >> try only bad french wine) ;) Let's drink a Mouton Rotschild, Pétrus, > >> Chateau Margaux .... > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > Mark Galbreath > >> > Principal Consultant > >> > Workflow Process Engineering and Systems Integration > >> > > >> > http://www.QAT.com > >> > 410-703-367 / 800-799-8545 > >> > > >> > "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately > >explained by > >> > stupidity." ~Hanlon's Razor > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:38 AM > >> > To: Struts Users Mailing List > >> > Subject: RE: [OT] Modeling tools > >> > > >> > > >> > And we all know that in the U.S. that there is no such thing as a > >> > good > >> beer! > >> > :-P > >> > > >> > >-----Original Message----- > >> > >From: Robert McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> > >Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:27 AM > >> > >To: Struts Users Mailing List > >> > >Subject: Re: [OT] Modeling tools > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >I agree, especially for collaboration. A whiteboard is a good > >> > >developer's best friend (short of a good beer)... > >> > > > >> > >- Robert > >> > > > >> > >Chappell, Simon P wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>It's called a whiteboard (or greaseboard if you fixate about > >> > >not refering to colours when describing inanimate objects) and it > >> > >does a better job of what I use Rose for than Rose does. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >> > >>>From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> > >>>Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:30 AM > >> > >>>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > >> > >>>Subject: RE: [OT] Modeling tools > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>There is no alternative to Rose. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Mark Galbreath > >> > >>>Principal Consultant, Workflow Process Engineering and Systems > >> > >>>Integration http://www.QAT.com > >> > >>>410-703-367 / 800-799-8545 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately > >explained > >> > >>>by stupidity." ~Hanlon's Razor > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >> > >>>From: Durham David Cntr 805CSS/SCBE > >> > >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >> > >>>Sent: Monday, February > >> > >>>10, 2003 10:04 AM > >> > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>>Subject: [OT] Modeling tools > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Wondering what kind of modeling tools you would recommended. I'm > >> > >>>looking for alternatives to Rational Rose and Poseidon. Thanks. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>-Dave > >> > >>> > >> > > >>>>----------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>>---- > >> > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > >>>>----------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>>---- > >> > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >>>------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >>--- > >> > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >>------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >-- > >> > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >For additional commands, e-mail: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > - > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > - > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > > >> > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > - > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]