Sorry to all who can't access - I've had a few emails! The site is actually
hosted on a high port number that some firewalls/corporate proxies will not
connect to. Once in production it will be on good ol' port 80.

Also the mods for Opera have not been done yet - so Opera may display a bit
strangely but again will be fine in production. IE and Moz are fine if you
can connect!

H.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 February 2003 16:22
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Sell me on tiles


I can't get the site to display at all, and i've tried both IE and Mozilla.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Hue Holleran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:20 AM
>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
>Subject: [OT] RE: Sell me on tiles
>
>
>Choice of colours was the customer's - they picked colours
>they felt would
>be eye-catching (damaging) (!)
>
>You should all feel great as struts developers - although this
>will not be
>surprising to the initiated - to know you've completely
>usurped Microsoft
>ASP and the shiny new Microsoft ASP.NET as the chosen
>development framework.
>
>Not a decision that was taken lightly - functioning versions
>were built in
>both ASP and ASP.NET (and in vanilla JSP and initially PHP).
>Decision was
>based on struts reducing the development time AND maintenance
>overhead this
>would entail in the future. Struts was a CLEAR winner.
>
>Once this site is in full production use in a few weeks time
>there will also
>be a section added on the website about the technology used and
>acknowledging the use of the struts framework. A separate
>section will also
>be referenced on the development website giving the technical
>justification
>for why struts was chosen as the framework.
>
>H.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: James Childers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 19 February 2003 15:41
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: RE: Sell me on tiles
>
>
>> I appreciate you've had lots of replies already - but tiles
>> was the "killer" feature for us in selecting struts. Please don't
>> misunderstand that struts isn't great anyway - we love it - but
>> the addition of tiles has made developing complex websites a
>> breeze.
>>
>> There is a very outdated "first-cut" of one of our production
>> sites at:
>>
>>      http://www.mortgagesurgery.com/
>>
>> ... the full production version will be released very soon.
>
>Aiii! My eyes!
>
>Seriously, good job. We're glad that Struts could be helpful.
>Amazing what a
>well designed framework will do for your enthusiasm in getting
>the job done.
>
>> My personal view is (and I'm sure someone will disagree!) -
>with tiles
>> available and so well-integrated into struts - you'd be
>> really missing-out
>> by not using it - even for the simplest of sites.
>
>I sure don't disagree. I'm doing a site for my wife -- a
>college prof -- in
>my spare time. It's a very simple site, maybe 10 - 12 pages
>total, but I'm
>using tiles for it because it makes life so much easier.
>Without it I would
>have an amalgamation of includes, and life would generally be much more
>difficult.
>
>Tiles or death!
>
>-= J
>
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