You had start when the market was pretty good. I've some friend
who have finish their degree last year -september-(one 29, one 40 and
another one
28) but they still didn't catch any job.

I finish my degree this year and I already have receive proposition from
three compagnies.

I think they are *to old* for most of the compagnies rigth now to employ
them
as junior developper.

--
Alexandre Jaquet

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From: "Susan Bradeen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter?


> Yep, Becky is right ... you are not alone. I am two years older than you
> Rick, and I just got into software development 4 1/2 years ago. I came
> from a mechanical design background (with a BS in Civil Engineering). I
> get great support from my fellow developers here, but more often than not
> I feel very much behind the 8-ball.
>
> Susan Bradeen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> On 03/31/2003 08:03:22 AM Becky Norum wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 23:44, Rick Reumann wrote:
> > > Does anyone else ever wake up going "Man, I feel overwhelmed. Too much
> > > too learn, not enough time." I started this computer stuff rather late
> > > in life and find it very difficult trying to pick out what to try
> > > concentrate my learning in. Bottom line is I have to put food on the
> > > table for the family so I have to concentrate in skill sets that are
> > > valuable (and not just fun:). I started this computer stuff rather
> late
> > > in life (4 years ago and I'm 33 now) and constantly wonder "What
> should
> > > I concentrate on learning next?" When you spend too much time learning
> > > one area you fall behind in another. That's what I find so amazing
> about
> > > some of these job applications- is they put down tons of skill sets
> and,
> > > sure there might be a few that truly 'know' all of the skill sets
> > > listed, but rarely have I come across that many people that can
> honestly
> > > say they are proficient in all of them. Then it's also the Catch-22 of
> > > if you diverse too much you end up being "ok" at a lot of stuff but
> not
> > > really "good" at any one skill. It seems like in this market it's best
> > > to just concentrate on being very good at a few skill sets vs trying
> to
> > > learn everything, but I could be totally wrong there. All and all it's
> > > just very frustrating:) Ehhh I'm just venting... just ignore me. Wish
> I
> > > could just start over and be a farmer in some little rural ho-dunk
> town
> > > where my greatest concerns would be whether God was going to provide
> > > enough rain for the crops.
> >
> > Rick,
> >
> > I often feel the way you do.  I didn't get into programming until I was
> > 24.  (28 now..). Although I don't have children of my own, I also
> > greatly value my time with my nephew, family and friends, and won't give
> > that up to cram more knowledge into my head.  It's also important to me
> > to spend time exercising and pursuing non-computer hobbies.
> >
> > I've accepted that I can't compete with the 16-year old hacker who lives
> > for his/her computer.  Heck, my little (23-yo) brother has started being
> > the one I ask about many things, not the other way around.  ;)
> >
> > You've got to keep your strengths in mind in order to stay positive.
> > What were you doing those years before you started working with
> > computers?  I studied Biochemistry and worked a diverse range of jobs.
> > What are your interests outside of computers?  If you end up doing
> > consulting, relating to clients is very important.
> >
> > A close friend of mine a year older than you works as a specialized O/S
> > customer support professional.  She started programming, etc. when she
> > was 29.  She took a position that allows her to use her technical degree
> > yet emphasizes her "people" skills.  Consistently, she receives very
> > positive feedback from Fortune 500 companies, feedback that some of her
> > more "techie" coworkers do not, because they don't share her ability to
> > talk to individuals less technically savvy than themselves.
> >
> > I guess all I'm saying is that you're not alone, and don't get
> > discouraged.  I can speak only for myself, but I have a lot of those
> > moments.  =)
> >
> > --
> > Becky Norum
> > Database Administrator
> > Center for Subsurface Sensing and Imaging Systems (CenSSIS)
> > Northeastern University
> > http://www.censsis.neu.edu
> >
> >
> >
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