Yep. Once over 30 in IT your far too old to start already as far as most employers are concerned. I gather that once over 35 you better have moved to some kind of managerial position already if you dont want it to be your last gig...
(Disregard above if you know COBOL) ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Jaquet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 31 March 2003 22:14 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? You had start when the market was pretty good. I've some friend who have finish their degree last year -september-(one 29, one 40 and another one 28) but they still didn't catch any job. I finish my degree this year and I already have receive proposition from three compagnies. I think they are *to old* for most of the compagnies rigth now to employ them as junior developper. -- Alexandre Jaquet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Bradeen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [OT] overwhelmed [was] Re: Does a degree matter? > Yep, Becky is right ... you are not alone. I am two years older than you > Rick, and I just got into software development 4 1/2 years ago. I came > from a mechanical design background (with a BS in Civil Engineering). I > get great support from my fellow developers here, but more often than not > I feel very much behind the 8-ball. > > Susan Bradeen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On 03/31/2003 08:03:22 AM Becky Norum wrote: > > > On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 23:44, Rick Reumann wrote: > > > Does anyone else ever wake up going "Man, I feel overwhelmed. Too much > > > too learn, not enough time." I started this computer stuff rather late > > > in life and find it very difficult trying to pick out what to try > > > concentrate my learning in. Bottom line is I have to put food on the > > > table for the family so I have to concentrate in skill sets that are > > > valuable (and not just fun:). I started this computer stuff rather > late > > > in life (4 years ago and I'm 33 now) and constantly wonder "What > should > > > I concentrate on learning next?" When you spend too much time learning > > > one area you fall behind in another. That's what I find so amazing > about > > > some of these job applications- is they put down tons of skill sets > and, > > > sure there might be a few that truly 'know' all of the skill sets > > > listed, but rarely have I come across that many people that can > honestly > > > say they are proficient in all of them. Then it's also the Catch-22 of > > > if you diverse too much you end up being "ok" at a lot of stuff but > not > > > really "good" at any one skill. It seems like in this market it's best > > > to just concentrate on being very good at a few skill sets vs trying > to > > > learn everything, but I could be totally wrong there. All and all it's > > > just very frustrating:) Ehhh I'm just venting... just ignore me. Wish > I > > > could just start over and be a farmer in some little rural ho-dunk > town > > > where my greatest concerns would be whether God was going to provide > > > enough rain for the crops. > > > > Rick, > > > > I often feel the way you do. I didn't get into programming until I was > > 24. (28 now..). Although I don't have children of my own, I also > > greatly value my time with my nephew, family and friends, and won't give > > that up to cram more knowledge into my head. It's also important to me > > to spend time exercising and pursuing non-computer hobbies. > > > > I've accepted that I can't compete with the 16-year old hacker who lives > > for his/her computer. Heck, my little (23-yo) brother has started being > > the one I ask about many things, not the other way around. ;) > > > > You've got to keep your strengths in mind in order to stay positive. > > What were you doing those years before you started working with > > computers? I studied Biochemistry and worked a diverse range of jobs. > > What are your interests outside of computers? If you end up doing > > consulting, relating to clients is very important. > > > > A close friend of mine a year older than you works as a specialized O/S > > customer support professional. She started programming, etc. when she > > was 29. She took a position that allows her to use her technical degree > > yet emphasizes her "people" skills. Consistently, she receives very > > positive feedback from Fortune 500 companies, feedback that some of her > > more "techie" coworkers do not, because they don't share her ability to > > talk to individuals less technically savvy than themselves. > > > > I guess all I'm saying is that you're not alone, and don't get > > discouraged. I can speak only for myself, but I have a lot of those > > moments. =) > > > > -- > > Becky Norum > > Database Administrator > > Center for Subsurface Sensing and Imaging Systems (CenSSIS) > > Northeastern University > > http://www.censsis.neu.edu > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
