I must give Chuck a Kudo here, since the day I read his book review, Strut's validator never fail me.
-Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Cavaness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: struts validator > Obviously I can only speak for the multiple projects (both my own and those I've consulted on), various articles and presentations that I've written on the Validator and of course the work that I've done with it while writing the Struts books, but the fact is that the Validator does work. > > Like other framework components underneath Jakarta, there are versions that have this bug or that bug. In general however, I have found the Validator to do everything that it was designed to do. I can't explain why some have had more trouble than others; it might just be the version of the software they were using at the time. Like many other facets about Struts and its related technologies, it can become unyielding at times, but is manageable. > > So, for those of you who have yet to try it, don't be afraid. Get yourself a book that covers it, read the docs, search the lists. Whatever you do, don't reinvent the wheel. For lexical or syntactical validation (whether client or server side), the Validator gives you a development boost. You just have to take the time to learn how to use it. > > > Chuck > > > > > > From: "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2003/06/05 Thu AM 09:50:08 EDT > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: struts validator > > > > >Not sure all this talk of validator is that justifiable. I've had no > > >issues generating both the client side and server side validation, and its > > >saved me a lot of work. > > > > > >Like others i think it would be nice to define form beans and validation > > >rules in the same place but I like it as it is, unless anybody has any > > >alternatives? > > > > One thing to consider is that Struts validation is based on > > commons-validator which reads its own xml config file. Moving the > > validation configuration to struts-config.xml would require us to do all the > > validator setup in Struts rather than leveraging the commons-validator code. > > > > David > > > > > > > >Thats my 2 pence.. > > > > > >Mark > > > > > >On Thursday, Jun 5, 2003, at 05:24 Europe/London, Jeff Kyser wrote: > > > > > >>So jump in and help David fix it. Otherwise, you're likely to > > >>wake up and find a large block of cheddar in your bed. :) > > >> > > >>On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 11:18 PM, Mark Galbreath wrote: > > >> > > >>>You know, I just don't get it. I think Validator was a great idea that > > >>>simply proved wrong in implementation. And I know I am not alone it > > >>>this > > >>>assessment. > > >>> > > >>>Mark > > >>> > > >>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:03 AM > > >>>To: Struts Users Mailing List > > >>>Subject: Re: struts validator > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Like I said, I dont use client-side, and its been pretty smooth sailing > > >>>for > > >>>me. Sorry your experience was different, but personally, I like it. > > >>>Especially defining constants for validation masks and using them over > > >>>and > > >>>over on lots of different forms in different projects even. And the > > >>>requiredif has been pretty handy for a number of cases to boot > > >>> > > >>>Of course, there are still cases where I need to go to > > >>>validate() methods in the actions, but they are less > > >>>and less, just as I use actual FormBeans less and less, > > >>>now that i halfway grok DynaValidatorForms... > > >>> > > >>>cheers, > > >>> > > >>>-jeff > > >>> > > >>>On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 10:40 PM, Mark Galbreath wrote: > > >>> > > >>>>yeah, well, DUH! When are you guys going to realize that Validator > > >>>>should > > >>>>never have come out here even in beta. It sucks. > > >>>> > > >>>>Mark > > >>>> > > >>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:25 PM > > >>>>To: Struts Users Mailing List > > >>>>Subject: Re: struts validator > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>I only did server-side validations, using v1.1b3, until I saw lots of > > >>>>people > > >>>>complaining that v1.1rc1 wasn;t working for client-side validations. > > >>>> > > >>>>I tried it (rc1) and it didn't work for me either. I haven't messed > > >>>>with the nightly builds - just went back to 1.1b3. Its probably been > > >>>>fixed in the > > >>>>latest, but since 1.1rc2 is coming out soon, figure I'll wait until > > >>>>then to > > >>>>check it out again. > > >>>> > > >>>>-jeff > > >>>> > > >>>>On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 08:18 PM, Mark Galbreath wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>Beats me, dude. I struggled with it for 3 days and said enough is > > >>>>>enough, and wrote my own validations in my Action classes. If you > > >>>>>look through the > > >>>>>mail archive, you'll see right off that this is what happens to the > > >>>>>majority > > >>>>>of people trying to get Validator to work. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Good luck, > > >>>>>Mark > > >>>>> > > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>>From: Frances Aleah Z. de Guzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:55 PM > > >>>>>To: Struts Users Mailing List; Mark Galbreath > > >>>>>Subject: Re: struts validator > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>how can i fix it? > > >>>>> > > >>>>>On Friday 30 May 2003 08:20 pm, Mark Galbreath wrote: > > >>>>>>That's because the Validator works by magic and you obviously have a > > >>>>>>hex in your machine. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>(sometimes I kill myself) > > >>>>>>Mark > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>From: Frances Aleah Z. de Guzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>>Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 2:49 AM > > >>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>>Subject: struts validator > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>struts validator (client side validation) example is not working in > > >>>>>>my pc, even the struts example. but it is working with the other pcs > > >>>>>>in our office. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>i noticed that when i view the page source there is no javascript > > >>>>>>generated unlike in the other pc. is there still i have to configure > > >>>>>>or what? im using > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>struts rc1.1 and j2sdk 1.4.1_02 and tomcat 4.1.24 as the web server > > >>>>>>and sometimes JBOSS 3.0.6 > > >>>>> > > >>>>>-- > > >>>>>Frances Aleah Z. De Guzman > > >>>>>SA/Programmer > > >>>>>Ingenium Technology, Inc. > > >>>>>http://www.ingenium.com.ph > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Disclaimer : > > >>>>>This message is intended only for the named recipient. If you are not > > >>>>>the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, > > >>>>>distributing > > >>>>>or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information > > >>>>>is > > >>>>>strictly prohibited. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > >>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > >>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
