Hi, Yansheng, The slow start-up time (of applets) has been improved significantly in the latest release J2SE 1.4.2. A high quality applet will also find ways to improve the initialization time as we do in our product, Carrier. It is available for download at http://www.netspread.com
In the universe of data entries, there are two kinds of data structures that business people are using: tabular data and hierarchical data. A spreadsheet can handle tabular data with easy, but it is very difficult to handle hierarchical data, such as the data in Ant project configurations with many levels of nested elements. The algorithms of Carrier Wheels solve the puzzle and are able to handle both data structures completely on Internet. Our phased validation model could be used to ensure data entries for every row are valid as well as for every nested form. If you look at our demo IRS Form 2441, you will find it is a typical spreadsheet like application. With one custom event handler to calculate the taxes, you compose the application completely within the Carrier client environment. The data entries are automatically persisted in database tables and restored back in hyper form beans by default. What makes Carrier different than a spreadsheet is its ability to manage hundreds or thousands web applications on Internet. It is the first Internet IDE in its concept. End users could even use it to exchange data entries in self-designed web forms without the need of writing single line of codes. If anyone would like to test such capabilities on Internet, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our live demo has been tested in many different client environments, like Fortune 500 corporate. Life should not be that hard, it is beautiful :-) Carrier works with existing Struts applications within one web application. It is intended to solve problems in solution spaces to help Struts users to quickly get their job done. The source codes for Carrier Wheels are open. Also free volume redistribution licenses are available for pilot users/consultants. Jing Netspread Carrier http://www.netspread.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yansheng Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 11:28 AM Subject: RE: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? > No, too slow(hope 1.5 will improve the start-up time). Beside we got the struts > framework set up for all other apps. Can I use swing with struts:). Hey, may > be that's a good idea. After all, it all comes down to request/response and > plus session stuff. > > Had a rough week, that's all. Sometimes they don't understand the > difficulties/limitations. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Erik Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: July 18, 2003 10:18 AM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Friday] How far can we let the clients push us? > > > > > Yansheng Lin wrote: > > To them, Online spreadsheet data-entry is a reasonable request. They don't > want > > to change their ways of practise, what can we do? They are paying us! > > > > Darn, life is so hard! > > Can you embed an applet that replicates spreadsheet functionality into a > web page? > > > > > > Erik > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]