I bet these people starting blocking messages now.
From: Mark Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:16:30 +0100
man.. I think that's savagely out of order..
I doubt the time "you have" wasted compares to the amount of time such a framework saves you. Have a look at some other open source projects, you'll soon start to see that struts is well documented and there are plenty of examples. Its more than you'll get with most projects.
On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 09:15 AM, message message wrote:
I have made another observation which has cost me a lot of time,
and should save you alot of time.
As these people are used to releasing beta versions,
their example applications are wriiten with the mentality
of, it is only a beta it which will change.
Frankly the example applications stink.
I have tried struts-logon and that has load of mistakes in it , while
the users are supposed to produce .war files that are production ready,tried and tested.
I have purchased a book called in Struts in Action and the simple example
application also doesn't work and needed correcting.
From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:42:01 +0400
I suggest you use a professional version.
You will save yourself alot of time.
These American companies have a culture of releasing beta functionality.
Hyping it up.
Getting people from the industry to test it free.
Having had the benefit of your free time then they charge you by selling to you
after having had your free feedback.
I am surprised you have not noticed this cultural trend.
That is the purpose of having mailing lists.
It is to get free feedback amongst other things.
Comparatively those of us who have to meet to spec are not allowed
such luxuries of beta versions.
The only upside is that if somebody(who doesn't want to spend on licensing fees)
and wants to write a bespoke product can use the tools freely.
How ever you have to take your chances with the stability.
From: "Jitesh Sinha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:22:01 +0530
I have done quite a bit of development without even knowing about
Struts...and it went quite smoothly....
as far as crying like a little baby over an iterate tag is concerned,that
was just an example...If inside 3-4 days i could find some basic thing
which was not there in Struts what about in later stages of development...
Anyway, somebody suggested reading a good book on struts...I will try that..
And one suggestion to those who are involved in the documentation: giving
examples certainly helps ...
-----Original Message----- From: Juan Alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:50 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete
Well why don't you just not use Struts and roll your own framework and come
back in about a year and let us know how it went.
I'm sure by then you will think Struts had everything you needed and you
won't be crying like a little baby over some iterate tag and/or how bad the
doc is. The doc worked just fine for me and I'm sure most of the developers
on this list who use Struts.
That's just MHO
Jitesh Sinha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I guess Struts development is not yet complete.
Since one of the things Struts does is providing tag libraries...now if
these tags cannot
do some basic functionalities(like iteration over a constant numbers which I
had posted in the this mailing list),one cannot rely on it completely to
develop his app....
Documentation is even worse....one has to do hit and trial to understand
what this tag will do...
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