Cheers David,
I'll take a look
Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 14 August 2003 16:14
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Struts Validator

--- Brian McSweeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> 
> >Have you looked at the struts-validator sample app? The 'types'
> examples
> >show most of the basic validations. If you've already looked at it,
is
> >there anything that would make it easier to understand?
> 
> No I had not heard about the sample app. I looked again on the main 
> Struts page and in the validator section there are 3 resources:
> 
> 1) A validating Two fields match by matt raible 
> (by the way - IMHO this method 
> /or a different implementation which does the same thing, would be
VERY
> helpful to be a part of the main validator package as it is such a
> common 
> requirement)
> 
> 2)DynaForms and the Validator  - a PDF document
> 
> 3) Validating user input - a PDF document
> 
> Am I missing the link? Is it part of the struts bundle?

Yes, it comes with the standard Struts distro.

David


> 
> I think a link from the main validator page would be helpful as this
is 
> where I went to initially find out how to use the validator.
> 
> >requiredif is in 1.1. Do you mean validwhen? If so, that's back in
the
> >nightly build and will be in the next release.
> 
> Cool. :-) 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Raeburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 14 August 2003 15:47
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: Struts Validator
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian McSweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: August 14, 2003 6:29 AM
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: Struts Validator
> >
> >
> > +1 for it works for me too.
> > Not knowing javascript well, using the validator allowed me
> > to quickly do client side validation.
> >
> > +1 for it isn't so easy to use. I think a "REALLY" simple default
app
> > that shows exactly how each different field validation works would
> > dramatically increase the use of the validator, which would in turn
> > dramatically increase the quality of the validator.
> 
> Have you looked at the struts-validator sample app? The 'types'
examples
> show most of the basic validations. If you've already looked at it, is
> there
> anything that would make it easier to understand?
> 
> >
> > Even a single jsp page for each field type and a submit button would
> > be a help. I only really use it for required strings and emails for
> > example. Even though I tried and failed to use required if
> > functionality. It's
> > a pity that this feature couldn't be included in the struts 1.1
> release.
> 
> requiredif is in 1.1. Do you mean validwhen? If so, that's back in the
> nightly build and will be in the next release.
> 
> Steve
> 
> >
> > However, at any rate, saying it's absolutely crap is both wrong
> > and not so nice IMHO.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerry Jalenak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 14 August 2003 14:06
> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Struts Validator
> >
> > +1 - Validator works.  I started using it waaaay back in the pre-RC1
> > days.
> > Everytime that Validator hasn't worked for me, I've found that it
was
> > due to
> > a screw up on my part (usually something in the validation.xml
file).
> > Except for rare occasions, I haven't had to write a customized
> validate
> > method.  When I do have to, I try to extend Validator so I can
> continue
> > to
> > use the tool.
> >
> > +1 - Validator is not perfect.  While I haven't found any major bugs
> (at
> > least ones that haven't already been reported), Validator does have
> its
> > quirks - you have got to get the validation.xml file right or else
it
> > just
> > flat won't work.  Also, since Validator relies on your
> > ApplicationResources.properties file for its error messages, it may
> > appear
> > that Validator is not working, when in reality, it just can't find
the
> > message to return to the client.
> >
> > +1,000,000 - There is only Us.  If not, then Micro$oft would be the
> only
> > choice for doing web development, and I'd have to find another
career
> > :-)
> >
> > Mark - I'll offer this again.  I'll be more than happy to look over
> your
> > forms, struts-config.xml, validator-rules.xml, validation.xml, and
> > properties files and see if I can figure out why you can't get
> Validator
> > working.  Let me know.
> >
> > Jerry Jalenak
> > Team Lead, Web Publishing
> > LabOne, Inc.
> > 10101 Renner Blvd.
> > Lenexa, KS  66219
> > (913) 577-1496
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve Raeburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:30 PM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: RE: Struts Validator
> > >
> > >
> > > Let me state the blindingly obvious:
> > >
> > >   1. Validator works. Other people seem to be able to use it.
> > >   2. Validator is not perfect. Valid bug reports would help
> > > make it better.
> > >   3. This is a community project. There is no Us and Them,
> > > only Us. And, for
> > > better or worse, that includes you.
> > >
> > > Since you've not posted any bug reports about validator I can
> > > only assume
> > > that you are either (a) blowing hot air, or (b) incapable of
> > > describing the
> > > bugs you say you've found. If you aren't capable of making a
> > > meaningful
> > > contribution, please at least don't waste other people's time
> > > with your
> > > nonsense.
> > >
> > > I'm not going to spend any more time batting this back and
> > > forth with you.
> > > If you are prepared to provide constructive criticism and/or
> > > help improve
> > > Struts, you'll find many people willing to accept your help
> > > and to offer
> > > theirs in return. If not, well it's pretty easy to filter you out.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: August 13, 2003 3:17 PM
> > > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Struts Validator
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dave,
> > > >
> > > > My only complaint with the authors of validator is that (a)
> > > they say it's
> > > > really cheeky, but (b) a host of developers, including me,
> > > have complaints
> > > > about it.  It just doesn't work within the framework
> > > documented.  The List
> > > > is full of complaints and requests along these lines.  You
> > > can ignore me,
> > > > but just dip into the List archive and see.  I write my own
> > > validator
> > > > methods because I couldn't get Validator to work within the
Struts
> > > > framework; looking at the archive, there are hundreds more that
> > > > could not do
> > > > the same.
> > > >
> > > > I am not looking for a war here.  All I ask is to get the
> > > damn thing right
> > > > before offering it as a release to our community.
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:45 PM
> 
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