Let me state the blindingly obvious:

  1. Validator works. Other people seem to be able to use it.
  2. Validator is not perfect. Valid bug reports would help make it better.
  3. This is a community project. There is no Us and Them, only Us. And, for
better or worse, that includes you.

Since you've not posted any bug reports about validator I can only assume
that you are either (a) blowing hot air, or (b) incapable of describing the
bugs you say you've found. If you aren't capable of making a meaningful
contribution, please at least don't waste other people's time with your
nonsense.

I'm not going to spend any more time batting this back and forth with you.
If you are prepared to provide constructive criticism and/or help improve
Struts, you'll find many people willing to accept your help and to offer
theirs in return. If not, well it's pretty easy to filter you out.

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: August 13, 2003 3:17 PM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Struts Validator
>
>
> Dave,
>
> My only complaint with the authors of validator is that (a) they say it's
> really cheeky, but (b) a host of developers, including me, have complaints
> about it.  It just doesn't work within the framework documented.  The List
> is full of complaints and requests along these lines.  You can ignore me,
> but just dip into the List archive and see.  I write my own validator
> methods because I couldn't get Validator to work within the Struts
> framework; looking at the archive, there are hundreds more that
> could not do
> the same.
>
> I am not looking for a war here.  All I ask is to get the damn thing right
> before offering it as a release to our community.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:45 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: Struts Validator
>
>
> --- Mark Galbreath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Me put up?  You offered this to the OS community with insufficient
> > documentation.  Just look at the archive for this list and I'll wager
> > there are more questions/complaints about Validator than any other
> > aspect of the
> > Struts community.
> > Me shut up?  Why don't you guys PUT UP?
>
> We don't work for you.  Steve is right. If you don't have any constructive
> criticism or patches it's time to quiet down.
>
> David
>
> >
> > Mark
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Raeburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:02 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: Struts Validator
> >
> >
> > Time to put up or shut up, Mark. If there are specific bugs you have
> > encountered with Validator, please report them via Bugzilla so they
> > can be addressed. (Patches would also be nice).
> >
> > Failing that, why not write something yourself and donate it so we can
> > call your hard work crap?
> >
> > Otherwise, please give it a rest.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: August 13, 2003 1:41 PM
> > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> > > Subject: RE: Struts Validator
> > >
> > >
> > > Validator is crap; don't waste your time.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephen Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:39 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Struts Validator
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone had any problems getting the Struts Validator to work?
> > >
> > > I have a small sample app that works OK but cannot get my main app
> > > to
> > > work! As far as I can see I have done everything the same as in the
> > > sample one.
> > >
> > > I have noticed that when the sample app that works starts up I get
> > > four messages from the ValidatorPlugin the first pair mentions the
> > > validation.xml and the validator-rules.xml then later it says
> > > ValidatorPlugin initResources
> > > then the previous xml messages.
> > >
> > > With the real app that doesn't work I don't get these second
> > > initResources messages. I am not sure if this is significant or not,
> > > does anyone have any ideas?
> > >
> > > I have: -
> > >
> > >   <plug-in className="org.apache.struts.validator.ValidatorPlugIn">
> > >     <set-property
> > >       property="pathnames"
> > >       value="/WEB-INF/validator-rules.xml,/WEB-INF/validation.xml"/>
> > >   </plug-in>
> > >
> > > in my struts-config
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > >       <form name="ValidationType">
> > >         <field
> > >           property="code"
> > >           depends="required">
> > >           <arg0 key="validationCode.code"/>
> > >         </field>
> > >         <field
> > >           property="constant"
> > >           depends="required,integer">
> > >           <arg0 key="validationCode.constant"/>
> > >         </field>
> > >       </form>
> > >
> > > in my validation.xml
> > >
> > > validator-rules.xml are default
> > >
> > > my formbean is extending ValidatorActionForm
> > >
> > > and my action mapping is
> > >
> > >     <action
> > >       path="/ValidationType"
> > >       name="validationTypeForm"
> > >       input="/jsp/validationtype/validationType.jsp"
> > >       type="com.mycompany.ValidationTypeAction"
> > >       scope="session">
> > >       <forward name="Success" path="/jsp/success.jsp"
> > redirect="true"/>
> > >       <forward name="Failure" path="/jsp/failure.jsp"
> > redirect="true"/>
> > >     </action>
> > >
> > > I am using Struts 1.1 with Tomcat 4.1.24 on XP
> > >
> > > Can anyone help?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
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