-----Original Message----- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:25 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete
I would suggest you do a little more learning and less whining. Struts is the predominant framework used in Java development today. I doubt that hundreds of thousands of developers are wrong and you are right. Unless you are discussing the Validator framework. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 4:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete I have made another observation which has cost me a lot of time, and should save you alot of time. As these people are used to releasing beta versions, their example applications are wriiten with the mentality of, it is only a beta it which will change. Frankly the example applications stink. I have tried struts-logon and that has load of mistakes in it , while the users are supposed to produce .war files that are production ready,tried and tested. I have purchased a book called in Struts in Action and the simple example application also doesn't work and needed correcting. >From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete >Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:42:01 +0400 > > >I suggest you use a professional version. >You will save yourself alot of time. >These American companies have a culture of releasing beta >functionality. Hyping it up. Getting people from the industry to test >it free. Having had the benefit of your free time then they charge you >by selling to you >after having had your free feedback. >I am surprised you have not noticed this cultural trend. >That is the purpose of having mailing lists. >It is to get free feedback amongst other things. >Comparatively those of us who have to meet to spec are not allowed >such luxuries of beta versions. > >The only upside is that if somebody(who doesn't want to spend on >licensing >fees) >and wants to write a bespoke product can use the tools freely. >How ever you have to take your chances with the stability. > > >>From: "Jitesh Sinha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: RE: Struts is incomplete >>Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:22:01 +0530 >> >>I have done quite a bit of development without even knowing about >>Struts...and it went quite smoothly.... as far as crying like a little >>baby over an iterate tag is concerned,that was just an example...If >>inside 3-4 days i could find some basic thing which was not there in >>Struts what about in later stages of development... >> >>Anyway, somebody suggested reading a good book on struts...I will try >>that.. >> >>And one suggestion to those who are involved in the documentation: >>giving examples certainly helps ... >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Juan Alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:50 AM >>To: Struts Users Mailing List >>Subject: Re: Struts is incomplete >> >> >>Well why don't you just not use Struts and roll your own framework and >>come >>back in about a year and let us know how it went. >> >>I'm sure by then you will think Struts had everything you needed and >>you won't be crying like a little baby over some iterate tag and/or >>how bad the doc is. The doc worked just fine for me and I'm sure most >>of the developers >>on this list who use Struts. >> >>That's just MHO >> >>Jitesh Sinha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I guess Struts development is not yet complete. >>Since one of the things Struts does is providing tag libraries...now >>if these tags cannot do some basic functionalities(like iteration over >>a constant numbers which I >>had posted in the this mailing list),one cannot rely on it completely to >>develop his app.... >>Documentation is even worse....one has to do hit and trial to understand >>what this tag will do... >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Yahoo! 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