On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:14 PM, David Van Assche <dvanass...@gmail.com> wrote: > ok? I guess this will be contreversial but it must be said and acted > upon (much more importantly) > > Im gonna try and make this easy: > > SoaS - the latest fedora core based > I tried to impress my 9 year old gescwister... (related one) > Speak - it will not even launch.... why is it then on a disitributed stick?
I have similar problems, and I don't even know where to submit bugs. We need some kind of organization now that we are in a matrix situation. We have a multitude of .xo packages, and at least the following platforms: o XO o Fedora o Debian o Ubuntu o Caixa Magica Linux (Venezuela) o Mobilis with Linux on XSCALE processor (Brazil) In addition to regular packages for installation, we want a LiveCD and SOAS for each one. That means that we need an automated build and QA infrastructure for all of these cases, and a reporting database. We are past the point where all-manual testing makes any sense. > ubuntu - > no read > no write > no jiggzawpuzzle > etoys > scratch > epathi > measure > anything tam tam based > until very recently even browse > pdf reader of any kind > measure > distance > slider > video chat > abc flower (thing doesnt even exist) > > ok, that is about 50% of the failed testtube babies... > > > what is the solution: > > we test the damn tings before release.... we do what greg > dekoenigsberg quite elegantly suggested. a 3 tier solution: +1, but we need even more than this. > 1. make an educator mailinglist.... we get every educator we know on > the list. We start off the discussion with what is really needed... > the simple stuff... the stuff u guru coders can whip up in days: > Examples: > > 1. typing tutor... all it should do is allow kids to follow whatever > the teacher is directing. speed of typing is recorded? accuracy; graph > based report; printable to parents... stars given to best pupils... > > guys these are real world scenarios... not invented by devs.. asked > for by teachers qnd not surprisingly thinking why it does not yet > exist. > > 2 same for maths... times tables/division/addition/substraction.... > groupings of kids, reports, printibale to both parents ant teachers... > > > 2. (gdk) guys this is what teachers want... I reallly hate to say > this; but the stuff right now on sugar apart from speak, which when > working every teacher loves, is an absolute waste of educators time... > yes the activities can be properly used... but basics first! mailing > list to get the, involved; we mention the activities that we (welll > actually they) have come up with, we discuss very briefly; > > 3: (gdk)then make a moodle/wiki page where educators and devs get > together to create the tools that we actually need (the ones that will > really chqnge the world) > > I hope no one takes this is as a critcism of the effort put into > creating activities till now; but people... lets frocus... lets sugar > mean something for teachers > > David (nubae) Van Assche > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Mokurai (Ed Cherlin) _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel