How about something in Croquet, http://www.opencroquet.org/index.php/Main_Page, or Seaside, http://www.seaside.st/, that would create a Sugar environment for the web, say Honeycomb?
I, too, need to spend more time under those hoods or in those hoods. --Fred 2009/3/18 Jameson Quinn <jameson.qu...@gmail.com> > I think that for a GSoC project, we care less about development kits/IDEs > like aptana, than about desktop-apps-with-AJAX solutions like Appcelerator > Titanium, Mozilla Prism (and in closed-source world, Adobe AIR and Curl). I > think it would be a great project to take Titanium or Prism and make a > generic sugar-like hello-world which used Javascript to save to the journal, > set some tags, open a file, coexist with Rainbow, and have a sugary toolbar. > Whether you worked on that activity with Aptana or whatever is a separate > issue. > > Disclaimer: I know nothing under the hood about any of the products > mentioned here, so I could be totally wrong. > > Jameson > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Bryan Berry <br...@olenepal.org> wrote: > >> They don't compare currently but they are developing rapidly, >> particularly aptana http://www.aptana.com. The great thing about aptana >> is that there is for-profit company behind it that seems to do a good >> job of sponsoring open-source development. >> >> Also, Apple, Palm, and maybe Android are pushing for js+html5 for all >> apps place of flash. >> >> On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 10:47 +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> > 2009/3/18 Bryan Berry <bryan.be...@gmail.com>: >> > > Felipe, >> > > >> > > "never bet against the browser" is absolutely true >> > > >> > > However, gnash is roughly 2-3 developer years behind macromedia flash. >> > > the big hurdle is adding support for ActionScript3 to Gnash. >> > > >> > > I don't think that better integrating Gnash into Sugar would be the >> best >> > > use of your time. The better bet is to integrate activities created >> with >> > > javascript + html5 into Sugar. >> > > >> > > I earlier advocated a framework called "Karma" for integrating flash >> > > swfs into Sugar. I now believe that javascript + html5 is a much >> better >> > > bet because it better adheres to our common belief in open-source and >> > > allows "View Source." Also, there are far more javascript developers >> out >> > > there than flash developers. This new rework of Karma could take >> > > advantage of projects like jquery-UI and new javascript animation >> > > libraries like processing.js and GX. >> > >> > That looks very interesting, but what about authoring tools for >> > javascript+html5? Are any that compare to the flash authoring tools? >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Tomeu >> > >> > > You could start out by trying to recreate some of OLE Nepal's existing >> > > flash activities as javascript + html5. You can find some here: >> > > >> http://www.pustakalaya.org/external-content/static/epaath/E-Paath-2.activity/activity/Activity/MenuStage.html >> > > >> > > If you are interested in such a project, I am definitely be interested >> > > in mentoring you. I have to warn you though that I am professionally a >> > > project manager and not a software engineer. In fact my software >> > > development skills are extremely limited beyond writing broken python >> > > scripts. >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Bryan W. Berry >> > > Technology Director >> > > OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org >> > > >> > > >> > > On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 15:37 -0600, Jameson Quinn wrote: >> > >> Flash is still not open source, and that creates issues when >> > >> distributing it (Adobe does not let you include it pre-installed in >> > >> images for download). >> > >> >> > >> Bryan Berry from OLE Nepal (cc:ed on this mail) has some good ideas >> > >> about how that idea should work, though he's not signed up as a >> > >> mentor. You should think about your design, and then discuss it with >> > >> him AND on the sugar-devel mailing list. >> > >> >> > >> Jameson >> > >> >> > >> 2009/3/17 Felipe López Toledo <zer.subz...@gmail.com> >> > >> Thanks. >> > >> >> > >> I'm interested: >> > >> SWF Sugar >> > >> * Integrate SWF (Flash/Gnash) >> > >> applications into Sugar. >> > >> * Ideally, develop a demo activity >> which >> > >> could be used as a template for >> > >> sugarizing Flash/Gnash activities. >> > >> * Priority for Sugar: Very High ("never >> > >> bet against the browser") >> > >> * Difficulty (as a GSoC project): hard >> > >> * Skills needed: SWF/Python integration >> > >> >> > >> why Gnash?, there is already a stable version of adobe player >> > >> for linux. >> > >> >> > >> really have very good ideas. Interesting! >> > >> >> > >> Greetings. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Jameson Quinn >> > >> <jameson.qu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/ProjectIdeas >> > >> >> > >> Good hunting :) >> > >> >> > >> Jameson >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Felipe López Toledo >> > >> <zer.subz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> Hi. >> > >> >> > >> I'm Felipe López Toledo, a university student >> > >> I read your message >> > >> ( >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/0cf911eb31087cd7?hl=en >> ) >> > >> I visited >> > >> >> http://sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=page&page=learners >> > >> >> > >> relly good work!. >> > >> >> > >> it would be nice to see you in the GSoC 2009. >> > >> by the way, do you have a project list? >> > >> >> > >> thanks. >> > >> >> > >> Felipe >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > -- >> > > Bryan W. Berry >> > > Technology Director >> > > OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Sugar-devel mailing list >> > > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> > > >> -- >> Bryan W. Berry >> Technology Director >> OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > >
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