On 30 Jul 2009, at 20:46, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 07/29/2009 07:03 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: >> Sorry if that wasn't clear. Activity icon and stop icon are >> essential. >> The Activity icon is going to be critical for identifying what >> activity >> you are in at a glance, especially if the actual title name is hidden >> away in a sub toolbar. A downside if we loose the title in the >> primary >> toolbar is reinforcement of knowing what activity you are in (say you >> are copy/pasting between two similar Write documents)... > > Ok, thanks for the explanation. The differentiation of the running > instance of two activities of the same type is a good point. But, > does this happen often? I guess many kids will run one activity of > each type at a time, and remember performance constraints ;p And one > can use the frame to distinguish the activities.
OK, next nit pick (apologise as it is clearly a design oversight not implementation issue). Are we suggesting we make all the lovely, really simple, Activities (the ones who have managed to avoid tabs and just a "title", "keep", "stop", and perhaps sharing) now show a 95% empty top bar (with just the activity icon at one end and the stop over at the other). And require popping up and potentially adjusting the canvas sizes to fit the Activity sub toolbar? Just did a very (very) quick/rough dig through. Pippy (though we could finally move "run" and "stop" into the toolbar). Maze IRC Chat Typing Turtle EToys (has title, sharing, keep, stop, and other buttons, ) Most (all?) of every MaMaMedia (Slider Puzzle, Jigsaw Puzzle, Poll builder, Story builder Joke Machine, etc...) et al... Ideally I'd like to see an activity icon, and its journal title appearing, so you have the best chance of knowing 'what' you are currently looking at. OT: Activity icon followed by title makes an activity instance look like the Journal entry row it came from, which would be a good thing, but I couldn't find a reliable design for that formula. > Personally, I see more the issue of naming an activity, since as > said in another post I am not really convinced about the naming alert. I know what you mean. I did wonder once if a modal activity alert style pop-up, below the activity toolbar, would be less intrusive, and more in context with the activity than a pop-up dialogue that hides most of the Activity context. > One little thing I am a bit worried about, is that we miss labels > for the sub-toolbars. I hope the icons are meaningful enough for the > users - but then labels can be misleading as well, and many of our > users can't possibly read. +1 Extremely good icons are essential or else WE FAIL and walk backwards here. :-( At least this is something we can iterate on before the 0.86 official release that gets documented and pushed out to deployments. > About alignment (attached is a snapshot), should we align the 'share > button' and the 'keep one' to the left that the way to get to this > button is not so long, when revealing the toolbar? My vote is for no right align. Put those icons (share with, keep) left aligned near any other icons (perhaps a tag feature can show here in future). My main concern here would be for a child trying to drive the mouse all the way over from the far left of the display, to the far right to hit a target. Regards, --Gary _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel