Hi Walter, On 7 Dec 2009, at 17:52, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Gary C Martin <g...@garycmartin.com> wrote: >> Hi Walter/Simon, >> >> On 7 Dec 2009, at 10:37, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> >>> On 12/06/2009 11:05 PM, Walter Bender wrote: >>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Simon Schampijer<si...@schampijer.de> >>>> wrote: >>>>> A few questions: >>>>> - in the Feature page you mention the 'random selector', is this option >>>>> still available in the latest design? >>>> >>>> This is still in the new design in that I didn't remove it from the >>>> code. (If you click on the central XO icon, you get a random color as >>>> before.) It is a decision I leave to the design team. >>> >>> Ok. Maybe the design team want to comment if they think that the random >>> functionality is a good one to have. >> >> Sorry, not quite following the 'random functionality' comment. Just to >> check, my understanding that 'forwards' and 'backwards' are hooked up to >> change a seed value used for a random calculation of the fill/stroke colour >> choices (an almost infinitely large carousel of random choices, left or >> right). Where the buttons act something like the below image to maintain the >> current behaviour where clicking the large Xo icon still progresses forward: >> >> Regards, >> --Gary > > Just to bring clarity to what I have implemented so far: > > (1) clicking on the left xo icon or the < icon causes the color pair > to cycle to the "previous" color pair in the list of colors found in > xocolor.py > (2) clicking on the right xo icon or the > icon causes the color pair > to cycle to the "next" color pair in the list of colors found in > xocolor.py > (3) clicking on the large xo icon causes a random color pair to be > selected from the list in xocolor.py and resets the index used in #1 > and #2. (Essentially the same as the present behavior). > > There is also a "hidden" button (a temporary kludge) to undo (useful > for undoing the random selection). The intention is to associate a key > (Ctrl-z) to the undo function. Ahhhh... Hmmm. Now, for me I think that implementation would be rather an unexpected/confusing behaviour, click the large XO and the little ones would seem to randomly change as well. Now I understand why the videos you posted caused me some confusion (I was expecting 3 colour choices in the xo < XO > xo to always scroll left or right). Do you have a clone somewhere on git.sugarlabs.org I can look at? As per previous button mockup image, marching through a random set, left or right, would seem to provide the existing behaviour, plus the equivalent of an undo, and a mini-me preview for what would be next/before undo. Sorry for the confusion. > Of course, you can still back out of the whole thing by canceling the > changes in the manner currently supported: hitting x instead of ✓ on > the panel. > > Comments on the above: > > (a) The order of the colors in xocolor.py is reason to cycle through. > If you get a close approximation from random, you can fine-tune your > selection by searching through adjacent colors. But only fine tune in 1 dimension? Would have to scroll a long way to see a change in the other fill/stroke colour. > (b) I don't know how to get icons that can both be recolored and use > accelerator keys, hence the kludge above. For accessibility purposes, > it would be nice to add short-cuts to all the buttons in the control > panel. > (c) Gary, I tried the stacked icons vs running them in a row. The > stacked icons didn't do it for me (or Eben, as I recall). The current > configuration is xo < XO > xo. OK, sorry missed that. FWIW, I think my main objection was that for the control panel positioning case, the XO was no longer central, being off centre to the right. I guess this could be easily fixed by moving the xo < XO > xo widgets down below the grey text "Click to change your color:" so the text does no longer pushes the widgets off to the right. Regards, --Gary _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
