On 08/30/2010 11:50 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > This is the first beta release of Etoys 4.1. > > The biggest change is that stopping the Etoys activity will no longer save to > the Journal. To save, you will have to press the keep button. The octagonal > stop button is replaced by a circular exit button to indicate the new > behavior. It puts up a warning before actually quitting. > > This was a tough decision to make. It violates the Sugar policy that users > should not have to worry about saving. Etoys generally tries to follow Sugar > conventions as close as reasonable. It saved automatically ever since we > implemented Journal support in 2007. > > However, using an Etoys project is the same as modifying it. In Etoys, > "authoring is always on", so much so that there is no distinction between > "authoring" and "using" (or as developers would say, "development" and > "runtime"). In particular, Etoys cannot decide if changes the user did are > meant to be made permanent. > > What happened is that simply viewing a project (e.g., downloaded from the > Squeakland Showcase, or even the built-in examples) saved it in a state the > author did not intend. Without versioning, the author's version is lost for > good. Basically you could only ever see the project once, because quitting > and restarting would preserve its "dirty" state. Even if the Journal > supported versioning by now (which we had hoped for to alleviate the > problem), auto-resuming the latest saved version would pretty much still > result in the same bad user experience. > > The only solution we can think of is leave it to the user to explicitly save > the project, as on the other platforms Etoys supports. Kudos to the > Squeakland education team who got XOs through the OLPC contributors program, > and prompted us to finally make this change we had been pondering for years. > Feedback appreciated. > > For more changes, see the log below. > > == Sources == > > http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2384.tar.gz
I guess you mean http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.1.2384.tar.gz ? Regards, Simon _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
