2011/6/17 Gary Martin <[email protected]>: > Hi Manuel, > > On 16 Jun 2011, at 05:29, manuel quiñones wrote: > >> El día 16 de junio de 2011 01:23, Gonzalo Odiard <[email protected]> >> escribió: >>> NIce! >> >> Thanks! :) >> >> Two options more: >> >> http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/import-export/document_import-export_2.png >> >> I think they are more clear, but the objects (arrow and doc) may be >> too small on screen. > > Sorry for this rushed email, I'm late to this thread! > > - I agree the 2nd two designs don't provide enough space for the object being > imported/exported (the blank document is the simplest visual case). > > - The 1st design is better in size but is too similar to the existing 14 > transfer-from-XXXX and transfer-to-XXXX icons already used in sugar-artwork > for the object transfer over the network feature (Journal "Send to -> > friend"). > > - I think introducing a 3d metaphor with the use of perspective is not ideal > – I'm sure there was a past thread about avoiding 3D metaphors in the flat > silhouette design style, but I can't find it, no mention of perspective in > the HIG either. There are only a few cases of 3D styling in Sugar designs at > the moment (the open Journal cover in the Keep icon, the my computer XO icon, > the long/lat lines on the Browse related icons) and none try to show > perspective. > > Taking a step back, here's a quick list of the goals I have written down: > > 1) ability to show different object types (pdf, png, generic image, python, > etc) > 2) visually distinguish importing vs. exporting from/to the Journal > 3) distinguish between the existing "Send to --> friend" and > importing/exporting from your Journal > 4) visually distinguish saving/loading from the file system tree > > Personally I have a strong dislike for case 4. It seems a short term > compromise/hack to raise a traditional gnome file chooser. Ideally if this is > seen an essential Sugar feature, the Object Chooser should allow switching to > view of the filesystem which – to be honest – seems like an almost solved > problem already as the Object Chooser will display any extra mounted volumes > in its toolbar (like a USB stick). Walter has a proposed patch already that > shows your ~/Documents folder in just such a way in the Journal, so the same > could be done for the Object Chooser (not sure the if ~/Documents patch works > at the volume mount level so might need some extra work). The need for case 4 > could then be dropped and all activity authors would automatically benefit > from the new ability. > > If case 4 goes away, we could go back to the original design used for the > Keep icon. Where we have a large user fill/stroke coloured image of the > object in question (pdf, png, generic image, python, etc) and a small white > arrow in the top right corner. Pointing to the document visual to indicate > creation of it (export to ...), and pointing away from it to indicate loading > of it (import from ...).
+1. But we need to take care about what parts of the file system will be made available this way: maybe something set through gconf? Indexing everything would incur a lot of overhead and result in a very long flat (but searchable) list -- not very useful). I could see indexing $HOME/Documents, $HOME/Activities (if you set some developer switch or some other trigger), and perhaps some $HOME/Media directory that encompasses the usual Pictures, Video, Music...). -walter > > Regards, > --Gary > >>> Gonzalo >>> >>> 2011/6/16 manuel quiñones <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Hi, I'm sending my first try at this icons, based on a discussion in >>>> the design meeting past sunday (sorry Gary you missed the last part). >>>> >>>> It becomes apparent that we need icons for export and import of >>>> documents. For example, Write reuses the document-save icon for >>>> export. >>>> >>>> http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/import-export/document-import.svg >>>> http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/import-export/document-export.svg >>>> http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/import-export/document_import-export.png >>>> >>>> This is how they can be used in Write: >>>> >>>> http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/import-export/import-export_mockup.png >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> .. manuq .. >> _______________________________________________ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
