Hi Ajay,

On 14 Aug 2012, at 11:51, Ajay Garg <a...@activitycentral.com> wrote:

> Hi Gary, Anish, Gonzalo.
> 
> The "impatient" UI-interaction bug has been fixed via ::
> http://git.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/mainline/commit/e34ba2bc5554621a7770c8f5960f257bff9787f8
> 
> The latest sugar-rpm (containing the fix) can be found at ::
> http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/multi-select-latest-sugar-rpm-14th-august/sugar-0.94.1-31.dx3.noarch.rpm
> 
> 
> Please test on the dextrose image as usual :)

Thanks. have just been testing an bumped into this new issue with the Journal 
UI is locking during a batch operation. You can't interact with error alerts:

        
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Journal_multiselect_lock_prevent_interacting_with_error.png

Regards,
--Gary

> 
> 
> Thanks and Regards,
> Ajay
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Gonzalo Odiard <gonz...@laptop.org> wrote:
> Probably have sense blocking the Journal ui (and show a clock cursor)
> when doing a slow operation.
> 
> Gonzalo
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Anish Mangal <an...@activitycentral.com> 
> wrote:
> There seem to be many bugs where something 'ugly' happens when
> something is clicked "while" an operation is happening.
> 
> Can't we just lock all UI actions *while* batch operations are taking
> place (and only have an abort/cancel button)? Of course, this might be
> harder said than done, and might not be the best way codewise (was
> just thinking in terms of UX)
> 
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Gary Martin <garycmar...@googlemail.com> 
> wrote:
> > Thanks Ajay,
> >
> > On 13 Aug 2012, at 07:05, Ajay Garg <a...@activitycentral.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Gary.
> >>
> >> Made the change via the patch ::
> >> http://git.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/mainline/commit/d9426b3b0be8249110d3073015d2514402734930
> >
> > That's a much smaller code change than mine ;)
> >
> >> The latest sugar-rpm can be found at ::
> >> http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/multi-select-latest-sugar-rpm-13th-august/sugar-0.94.1-31.dx3.noarch.rpm
> >>
> >>
> >> Please test with it, on your dextrose image as usual :)
> >
> > Have found a new nasty bug. If, while a batch operation is in progress, you 
> > uncheck some items, multi-select gets rather unhappy. My test case:
> >
> > 1) copy ~100 items over to the Documents folder
> > 2) switch to view the Documents folder
> > 3) check an entry and the select all
> > 4) scroll down a few pages
> > 5) click Erase
> > 6) confirm the Erase
> > 7) uncheck some entries while the batch is running
> > 8) wait for Erase batch to complete
> >
> > Result: I now see the Toolbar hint that says "Selected 3 of 100" (I 
> > unchecked 3 items during the Erase batch operation), however all ~100 items 
> > are still displayed and shown checked. I then clicked Select all and got a 
> > spinning cursor and a seemingly stalled Journal stuck in multi-select mode. 
> > As I moved the cursor over the list area the activity icons started to 
> > redraw in black and white (no more ownership stroke and fill colour, I 
> > guess due to catching up with erased metadata). Needed to reboot Sugar to 
> > recover, and on checking Documents all items had been erased.
> >
> > You can get into similar multi-select stalls by being 'impatient' with the 
> > UI:
> >
> > 1) select ~100 items
> > 2) click erase
> > 3) confirm erase
> > 4) click Deselect all while the batch is still running
> >
> > I'll post the shell log to you in a separate email.
> >
> > Regards,
> > --Gary
> >
> >> Thanks and Regards,
> >> Ajay
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Gary Martin <garycmar...@googlemail.com> 
> >> wrote:
> >> Hi Ajay,
> >>
> >> On 12 Aug 2012, at 20:30, Gary Martin <garycmar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Ajay,
> >> >
> >> > On 8 Aug 2012, at 10:42, Ajay Garg <a...@activitycentral.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Gary.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please find the link, for the latest sugar-rpm, that contains the 
> >> >> fixes/changes, as per the 3 action-items marked for me, in 7th August's 
> >> >> design-meeting ::
> >> >> http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/multi-select-with-checkbox-fix-plus-3-more-7th-august-action-items/sugar-0.94.1-31.dx3.noarch.rpm
> >> >>
> >> >> For brevity, here are the action items, and the corresponding patches ::
> >> >>
> >> >> #action improve batch tick redraw-intervals (ajay)
> >> >> http://git.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/mainline/commit/cdcf2717fe4bdd42cdbb632c51b0b371e2e3352f
> >> >
> >> > Spotted one case here, in line 96:
> >> >
> >> >       if (current_entry_number % twenty_percent_of_total_items) == 0:
> >> >
> >> > If there are only a small number of items (e.g. 11) being batched 
> >> > operated on then it redraws too frequently (in ~2 at a time for 11 
> >> > entries), so is quite slow. Batch operations should be in blocks of 10 
> >> > or more at a time (unless there are less than 10 items in which case do 
> >> > them all at once). This also means your test at line 80 isn't being 
> >> > usefully triggered and I think can be removed (as far as I can tell, 
> >> > please test).
> >> >
> >> > The test case at line 96 should be something like:
> >> >
> >> >       if min (total_items, max (10, (current_entry_number % 
> >> > twenty_percent_of_total_items))) == 0:
> >>
> >> Sorry that test case for line 96 made little sense! Second attempt:
> >>
> >>         if current_entry_number % max(10, twenty_percent_of_total_items) 
> >> == max(10, twenty_percent_of_total_items) - 1:
> >>
> >> So this should refresh the list no more frequently than every 10th entry 
> >> processed, and when there are > 50 entries the 20% starts to have an 
> >> effect on the distance between updates so that not too much time is wasted 
> >> redrawing when there are many entries being batch processed.
> >>
> >> Your test case at line 80 should stay so that at least the first page of 
> >> entries gets a reasonably quick update if there are many entries being 
> >> processes, and your clause at line 86 for redrawing at the last entry 
> >> covers the case for when there are < 10 items.
> >>
> >> Apologies,
> >> --Gary
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > --Gary
> >> >
> >> >> #action change status strings to normal case and remove braces and / 
> >> >> for friendly language (ajay)
> >> >> http://git.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/mainline/commit/767074994a0ea7f8356a1feafb7f2becae1b49f3
> >> >>
> >> >> #action make Stop aleart before batch operations really stop the batch 
> >> >> operation (ajay)
> >> >> http://git.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/mainline/commit/f4ab20a311e5090aca2e1d757c6433eb19c5522a
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Please test as usual, on the dx3ng147 image :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, please let know for further feedback, on the mailing-list itself. 
> >> >> The next Tuesday is still 6 days away :D :D
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks and Regards,
> >> >> Ajay
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Ajay Garg <a...@activitycentral.com> 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> Hi Gary.
> >> >>
> >> >> Finally... the checkbox-issue has been solved :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Please find the "fixed" rpm, containing the checkbox-fix at
> >> >> http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/multi-select-with-checkbox-fix/sugar-0.94.1-31.dx3.noarch.rpm
> >> >>
> >> >> For brevity, here is the patch link ::
> >> >> http://git.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/mainline/commit/381e706de7e7309d27a44ed064794a44d50aad4a
> >> >>
> >> >> The sugar-toolkit rpm remains the same as before.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> So, in addition to the "a) - i)" points of the previous mail, I add the 
> >> >> next point ::
> >> >>
> >> >> j)
> >> >> Now there is prompt feedback of checking/unchecking the checkboxes and 
> >> >> favorite-icons.
> >> >>
> >> >> However, note that for favorite-icons, there is a logical hinderance to
> >> >> true prompt feedback, as described in 
> >> >> http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3147.
> >> >>
> >> >> Checkboxes' feedbacks work perfectly !!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks and Regards,
> >> >> Ajay
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Ajay Garg <a...@activitycentral.com> 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> Hi Gary.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please find attached the links to the "fixed" rpms.
> >> >> Please "--upgrade --force --nodeps" on the dx3ng143 image, on which you 
> >> >> have been testing.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/multi-select/sugar-0.94.1-31.dx3.noarch.rpm
> >> >> http://people.sugarlabs.org/ajay/root/multi-select/sugar-toolkit-0.94.0-20120805.dx3.fc14.i386.rpm
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> For brevity, the patches are at ::
> >> >> http://git.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/mainline/commit/38a261887ed44756147bae44277642252cae628f
> >> >> http://git.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/mainline/commit/0c71cf00dfb8fe507627109748b5539e0eeba87f
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Following are the changes/fixes ::
> >> >> All courtesy you :)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> a)
> >> >> 'Select none' renamed as 'Deselect all'.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> b)
> >> >> Now, a text-widget has been added to the top of EditToolBar.
> >> >> This serves the following two purposes ::
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>    * The widget is supposed to display only one line, at ANY time.
> >> >>
> >> >>    * Usually, while in "multi-select" mode, it will display "<x> of 97 
> >> >> selected", where "x" is the number of entries currently selected,
> >> >>      and 97 is assumed to be the total number of entries.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>      Here, as we select/deselect by single-click, or "select 
> >> >> all"/"deselect all" button,  the update happens consequently.
> >> >>
> >> >>      So, as is obvious, this modification helps show the number of 
> >> >> selected entries, even when entries are selected/deselected one at a 
> >> >> time
> >> >>      (previously, the status was shown, only when "select all" or 
> >> >> "deselect all" was done).
> >> >>
> >> >>    * During batch-copy, or batch-erase, this widget shows the running 
> >> >> status of the entry currently being processed.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> c)
> >> >> Due to b), the progress-statuses are now NOT shown as alerts; rather as 
> >> >> texts in the text-widget.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> d)
> >> >> However, any errors (such as "Entries without a file cannot be copied") 
> >> >> are continued to be shown as alerts.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> e)
> >> >> Other than the progress-texts, and error-alerts, the only other 
> >> >> notification shown are the confirmation-alerts before beginning
> >> >> with the "Batch-Copy" and "Batch-Erase".
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> f)
> >> >> During Batch-Operations (almost exclusively Batch-Copy), if an error 
> >> >> occurs, users are presented with two options ::
> >> >>
> >> >>    * "Stop" - This stops the batch-operation there and then.
> >> >>
> >> >>    * "Continue" - Proceed forward with the next journal entry.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> g)
> >> >> As seen in f), the "Ok" of the error-alert has been replaced (only 
> >> >> textually) by "Continue".
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> h)
> >> >> There were exceptions of the form "KeyError: 'keep'" occuring in logs.
> >> >> This was due to some cases, wherein "keep" property was not present in 
> >> >> a particular journal entry.
> >> >>
> >> >> So now, as a fix, we first check if "keep" is a valid metadata-key. If 
> >> >> yes, we read its value to gauge favorite-status.
> >> >> Else, we assume that the journal-entry is an unfavorite by default.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> i)
> >> >> VERY IMPORTANT NOTE ::
> >> >>
> >> >> Renaming a journal-entry (by clicking and modifying the contents of the 
> >> >> title-cell, has been disabled functionally.
> >> >> This is because, the following happens when a rename is done in the 
> >> >> "Documents" view ::
> >> >>
> >> >>    * Initially, the UID is same as the path of the entry in "Documents".
> >> >>
> >> >>    * User changes the name. The change is written on the DS, and the 
> >> >> UID changed.
> >> >>
> >> >>    * Now, since refresh is inhibited in multi-select view, we need to 
> >> >> fetch the new value of the title from the DS.
> >> >>      This requires the UID, through which the UID could be fetched. 
> >> >> Since the name of the "Documents" journal-entry has
> >> >>      changed, so has its UID. But in the memory, the old UID still 
> >> >> resides. Fetching the "new" title from the "old" UID does not
> >> >>      work.
> >> >>
> >> >>      Now, I tried disabling the renaming while rendering the listview, 
> >> >> but that could not be done, as rendering th listview requires
> >> >>      knowing whether we are in multi-select mode, while multi-select 
> >> >> mode is set, after the listview is rendered. So, we are in a catch-22
> >> >>      situation.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, the way it works now in multi-select mode ::
> >> >>
> >> >>    * User is apparently able to edit the title, but that is all what 
> >> >> happens.
> >> >>      There is no efective change - neither in backend, nor in frontend.
> >> >>
> >> >> In the normal view, the renaming works as usual.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ======================================================
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> PENDING CHANGES ::
> >> >>
> >> >> a)
> >> >> As explained in point i) above, the renaming will not work, while in 
> >> >> multi-select mode (however, the bug you reported wherein trying to 
> >> >> rename in
> >> >> "Documents" folder renders the UI unusable, has been duly fixed (of 
> >> >> course, by not allowing the renaming to happen).
> >> >>
> >> >> If this is indeed required, this will be a major change in the way we 
> >> >> deal with UIDs for non-journal mount-points. But given that renaming is 
> >> >> affected only in multi-select mode (renaming does not work at all in 
> >> >> multi-select; while it works as usual in normal-mode), I am a bit 
> >> >> sceptical to regarding this.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> b)
> >> >> A solution to the following bug ::
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> UNRESOLVED BUG. Tick-box slow/erratic behaviour in dx3ng143 with latest 
> >> >> rpm fixes image on XO1, still needs mouse movement to redraw. This is 
> >> >> also an issue when using the "Select all" toobar button, as the list 
> >> >> view tick-boxes do not update until after the "Select all. You have 
> >> >> selected N entries. (Ok)" dialogue is clicked.
> >> >>
> >> >> still eludes me :(
> >> >>
> >> >> This is an important issue, since (although there is no unusable UX, or 
> >> >> any such major workflow blocker), the select/deselect "visual" 
> >> >> "feedback" is an important thing, that should be conveyed as soon as 
> >> >> possible. Though Gary's feedback on adding a text-widget on the top 
> >> >> EditToolBar, does help show the number of entries selected, and thus 
> >> >> gives a "textual" "feedback" :)
> >> >>
> >> >> I would request all sugar-devel members to please post a solution to 
> >> >> the issue, for which the discussion is going on, in the thread ::
> >> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2012-July/038626.html
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks and Regards,
> >> >> Ajay
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Gary Martin 
> >> >> <garycmar...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Hi Ajay,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 4 Aug 2012, at 10:21, Ajay Garg <a...@activitycentral.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Ajay Garg <a...@activitycentral.com> 
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> Thanks a ton Gary.
> >> >>> This is REALLY useful :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Fab :)
> >> >>
> >> >>> Please find the comments inline.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Gary Martin 
> >> >>> <garycmar...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> Hi Ajay/Anish,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 18 Jul 2012, at 11:57, Anish Mangal <an...@activitycentral.com> 
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I would like to propose the long-discussed-finally-implemented ;-)
> >> >>>> journal entry batch operation and multi selection feature for
> >> >>>> inclusion in sugar-0.98. All the necessary and relevant details should
> >> >>>> be present in the associated feature page:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Multi_selection_screenshots
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> AFAIK, This feature was initially brought up in discussions in EDUJam
> >> >>>> in 2011 and an initial implementation was made by Martin Abente. The
> >> >>>> current implementation, done by Ajay, has been derived from that
> >> >>>> keeping the UI experience largely the same while significantly
> >> >>>> speeding up operations like select/deselect.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Should you have any design related questions about this, feel free to
> >> >>>> reply to this thread.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> At last Tuesday's design meeting we didn't make it back around to this 
> >> >>> agenda item, so here's my feedback/notes after testing the DX3 image 
> >> >>> with the new rpms:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - FIXED. Once in multi-select mode, the favourite stars no longer 
> >> >>> visibly updates, though changes update later once multi-select mode is 
> >> >>> exited.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Great !!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - FIXED. Auto deselection after batch operation.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Great !!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - UNRESOLVED BUG. Tick-box slow/erratic behaviour in dx3ng143 with 
> >> >>> latest rpm fixes image on XO1, still needs mouse movement to redraw. 
> >> >>> This is also an issue when using the "Select all" toobar button, as 
> >> >>> the list view tick-boxes do not update until after the "Select all. 
> >> >>> You have selected N entries. (Ok)" dialogue is clicked.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yep.. this is becoming a real pain.
> >> >>> I have tried the solutions listed at 
> >> >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2012-July/038626.html, 
> >> >>> but none seem to work :-\
> >> >>> Anyways, I am still trying ..
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [Ajay ACTION 1] : Fix this.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - NEW BUG. Renaming an entry while in multi-select mode does not 
> >> >>> display the name change, only updates the name displayed after 
> >> >>> multi-select mode is exited.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks. Reproduced the bug at my side.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [Ajay ACTION 2] : Will fix.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - NEW BUG. If you rename while in multi-select and then try to copy, 
> >> >>> the entry can't be copied and raises an error "Entries without a 
> >> >>> filename cannot be copied."
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hmm.. I think this is a false-negative.
> >> >>> I tried the following ::
> >> >>>
> >> >>>              * Entered "multi-select" mode.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>              * Selected an entry (by ticking the check-box).
> >> >>>
> >> >>>              * Re-named the entry (however, the rename was not 
> >> >>> immediately visible, due to the above bug).
> >> >>>
> >> >>>              * Copied the entry to "Documents".
> >> >>>
> >> >>>              * Exited "multi-select" mode.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>              * Clicked "Documents" icon.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>              * The entry (WITH THE MODIFIED NAME) was present.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I guess the error message "Entries without a file cannot be copied" 
> >> >>> occurred on an entry, that would have anyways given this message, even 
> >> >>> if you hadn't renamed the entry.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [Gary ACTION 1] : Please let me know if you still face the error :)
> >> >>
> >> >> OK, sorry I must have missed an extra step (I can't reproduce this just 
> >> >> now). Will email you if I can find a reliable way to reproduce it.
> >> >>
> >> >> However, I seem to have found a more nasty bug, while trying to test... 
> >> >> Switch to the Journal Documents view; select an item; rename the 
> >> >> selected item; the selected item will be deselected – though you'll 
> >> >> still be in multi-select mode (but with nothing selected); click the 
> >> >> toolbar button Select none; Journal will now be in a bad/unusable 
> >> >> state, spinning busy cursor, can't escape multi select mode, shell log 
> >> >> shows tracebacks IOError: Couldn't open metadata directory. I needed to 
> >> >> restart Sugar to get back to normal. I'll post some shell logs in a 
> >> >> separate email to you.
> >> >>
> >> >>> - UNRESOLVED DESIGN QUESTION. Should filters continue to work once in 
> >> >>> multi-select mode e.g: Filter for star favourite items in Journal; 
> >> >>> multi select all stared items; un-favourite some entries while in 
> >> >>> multi-select mode. Should they be removed from the multi-select view, 
> >> >>> or stay? Currently they stay, but this causes a visual 'jump' when 
> >> >>> exiting multi-select mode as the initial filter is re-applied to the 
> >> >>> view. Same issue if filtering the Journal by title, and you rename 
> >> >>> some entries while in multi-select mode.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Well, I would say not to effect the change during multi-select mode, 
> >> >>> because of the following reasons ::
> >> >>>
> >> >>>              * Currently, the code is tightly bound to having the 
> >> >>> "current" listmodel entries in the cache.
> >> >>>                A re-fresh, would cause the cached entries to be 
> >> >>> re-distributed, requiring a very major code change.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>              * The original motive of "allowing" the user to set/unset 
> >> >>> favorite status, and rename entry, is to help the user do the 
> >> >>> processing on the entry,
> >> >>>                as she selects the entry. So, I guess it would be ok to 
> >> >>> effect the filters of these "secondary" features, AFTER the original 
> >> >>> action (copy,
> >> >>>                erase) is completed, and "multi-select" mode exited.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [Gary ACTION 2] : Anyhow, please let me know if you think otherwise :)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - FEEDBACK. In multi-select mode the toolbar button string 'Select 
> >> >>> none' would be better renamed as 'Deselect all'.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ok.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [Ajay ACTION 3] : Will fix.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - TESTING. A loaded Journal with ~100 items, and a USB stick with 900+ 
> >> >>> items was tested. Selecting individual items one by one is reasonable 
> >> >>> (ignoring the above unresolved redraw/event bug). Batch selecting, 
> >> >>> deselecting, erasing operations are pretty quick (batch feedback 
> >> >>> progress is helpful especially for the 900+ item case). Batch copying 
> >> >>> is the slowest operation (as to be expected), feedback progress here 
> >> >>> is essential for even a few items.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [Gary ACTION 3] : Ok, so we show the progress for all = "Select", 
> >> >>> "Deselect", "Copy", "Erase", right?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, but in the primary title bar as a text widget.
> >> >>
> >> >>> - FEEDBACK. In the primary multi-select toolbar, add a separator and 
> >> >>> text widget to show how many items are selected, and how many are in 
> >> >>> the current multi-select view e.g. "Selected 3 of 123" so the current 
> >> >>> multi-select state is always visible to the user. This same widget can 
> >> >>> be used for progress feedback during batch operations e.g. "Copying 9 
> >> >>> of 22: <title>", "Erasing 3 of 15: <title>", "Deselecting 5 of 17". 
> >> >>> This removes the need for all progress alerts during batch operations, 
> >> >>> see below.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Gary, please clarify a bit more.
> >> >>> For eg, if a user wishes to do batch-copy on 15 entries (out of 97 
> >> >>> entries), so would the snapshots be like ::
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <First row of text widget>      Selected 15 of 97
> >> >>> <Second row of text widget>  Copying 1 of 15 <title>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <First row of text widget>      Selected 15 of 97
> >> >>> <Second row of text widget>  Copying 2 of 15 <title>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <First row of text widget>      Selected 15 of 97
> >> >>> <Second row of text widget>  Copying 3 of 15 <title>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <First row of text widget>      Selected 15 of 97
> >> >>> <Second row of text widget>  Copying 4 of 15 <title>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ..
> >> >>> ..
> >> >>> ..
> >> >>> ..
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <First row of text widget>      Selected 15 of 97
> >> >>> <Second row of text widget>  Copying 14 of 15 <title>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <First row of text widget>      Selected 15 of 97
> >> >>> <Second row of text widget>  Copying 15 of 15 <title>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> OR WOULD IT BE SIMPLY
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <First row of text widget>  Copying 1 of 15 <title>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <First row of text widget>  Copying 2 of 15 <title>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <First row of text widget>  Copying 3 of 15 <title>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <First row of text widget>  Copying 4 of 15 <title>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ..
> >> >>> ..
> >> >>> ..
> >> >>> ..
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <First row of text widget>  Copying 14 of 15 <title>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <First row of text widget>  Copying 15 of 15 <title>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [Gary ACTION 4] : Please clarify.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I think I understood what is required.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> * The widget is supposed to display only one line, at ANY time.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> * Usually, while in "multi-select" mode, it will display "<x> of 97 
> >> >>> selected", where "x" is the number of entries currently selected.
> >> >>>  Here, as we select/deselect by single-click, or "select all" / 
> >> >>> "deselect all" button,  the update happens consequently.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>  So, as is obvious, this modification helps show the number of 
> >> >>> selected entries, even when entries are selected/deselected one at a 
> >> >>> time
> >> >>>  (previously, the status was shown, only when "select all" or 
> >> >>> "deselect all" was done).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> * During batch-copy, or batch-erase, this widget shows the running 
> >> >>> status of the entry currently being processed.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> * This seems to be a sleeker design, as it does do away with showing 
> >> >>> the running status as an alert.
> >> >>>  After all, alerts are meant to convey a potentially major action ..
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> So,  modified action for Gary :D  ::
> >> >>>          [Gary ACTION 4] : Please confirm, as to if my understanding 
> >> >>> is correct.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, that's it! :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> --Gary
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sorry for the inconvenience.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks and Regards,
> >> >>> Ajay
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - FEEDBACK. {confirmation_before, progress, confirmation_after}
> >> >>>    ... select_none {N, N, N}
> >> >>>    ... select_all {N, N, N}
> >> >>>    ... erase {Y, N, N}
> >> >>>    ... copying {Y, N, N}
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ok. Got it :)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [Ajay ACTION 4] : Will make the changes.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - FEEDBACK. We should allow a user to abort a batch operation when an 
> >> >>> error occurs. Use cases, encountering many errors during a batch 
> >> >>> operation when a volume runs out of space, or becomes unavailable. One 
> >> >>> solution on other platforms is a check box for in the error dialogues 
> >> >>> "[√] Apply to all" (to ignore future errors of this type during this 
> >> >>> batch process), and/or an additional button "Stop". I'd suggest our 
> >> >>> batch operation errors dialogues add a "Stop" button to allow aborting 
> >> >>> the batch process, and that the current "Ok" button is renamed 
> >> >>> "Continue" to be more clear.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ok.
> >> >>> So,
> >> >>>                    * [Ajay ACTION 5] : We add a "Stop" button, which 
> >> >>> occurs on any error alert message.
> >> >>>                       If the user clicks the "Stop" button, the 
> >> >>> batch-operations ends there ans then.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>                    * [Ajay ACTION 6] : "Ok" button will be renamed to 
> >> >>> "Continue" button.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - UNRESOLVED DESIGN QUESTION. Do we want to allow a user to abort a 
> >> >>> batch operation while it is in progress? Use case, copying/erasing 
> >> >>> many items over a slow network, or usb device, and deciding if it is 
> >> >>> not worth the wait. I think, for now, we can avoid this extra UI work 
> >> >>> as the batch features do provide the option to cancel before they 
> >> >>> begin. We should revisit this if it turns out to be a frustration for 
> >> >>> users. The UI design would likely be to add the cancel icon (X) to the 
> >> >>> primary toolbar while a batch operation is in progress.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> +1.
> >> >>> Anish too had suggested the same, but then we forfeited the idea, as 
> >> >>> this would make this (unnecessarily?) complex.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Anyways, in-field experiences are the real teachers :D :D
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Regards,
> >> >>> --Gary
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> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Gary, waiting for your responses :)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks again.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks and Regards,
> >> >>> Ajay
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
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