--- On Wed, 9/19/12, S. Daniel Francis <fran...@sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> From: S. Daniel Francis <fran...@sugarlabs.org> > Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18 > To: "Kevin Mark" <kevin.m...@verizon.net> > Cc: "James Simmons" <nices...@gmail.com>, "iaep" <i...@lists.sugarlabs.org>, > "Sugar-dev Devel" <sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org>, > community-n...@lists.sugarlabs.org > Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2012, 11:27 PM > Hi Kevin, > > 2012/9/19 Kevin Mark <kevin.m...@verizon.net>: > > Hearing from the kids who are making Sugar activities > and more contributions, I'm really wanting to > > know what teaching environment made this possible? > > Summing my case all the cases I listened about, we usually > learn by our self. > Thinking about why Sugar, well, we could make desktop > applications, > but a free and decent way to share a program is difficult to > find and > there's not always a community where we can share what we > make. While I can't speak for Sugar Labs, this sound like a very good problems to address. "Scratch" has a website to 'upload' its programs. I would really love to see a way to help young sugar activity hacker have a place for them to 'hack' on their games/activities. Maybe Activities.sugarlabs.org or some website in .uy? And maybe a forum? (I'm not someone to do this sadly but would think that the very capable people around the sugar community would find this idea motivating) > Also I > think Sugar needs activities, unlike desktops, where > practically all > is already made. > > Just Edward suggested us to tell our stories, but at the > moment I'll > not get into many details and only answer your questions. > > > Are there activity hacking classes? > In Uruguay there is only one activity hacking teacher: > Flavio Danesse. OH wow. I have recently started to 'hack' on JAMedia and JAMediaTube. So I know his work. I wonder if making videos of his lecture would be something he could do and the kids could watch? > He is an IT teacher, and every year he organizes a workshop > where he > teaches volunteer students to program in Python. The group > "Python > Joven", in English "Young Python".. If you and others can make 'clubs' in your area, that would be great, maybe they can setup a web 'forum' for everyone to exchange ideas. > > Currently, his students contributing here are Agustin > Zubiaga and > Cristhofer Travieso, they told me about another student who > develops > applications for Android. > > > Is this kind of experimentation part of a turtleart > class? > For my part I can say "yes and no"... When I received my XO > with Sugar > I liked very much TurtleArt, but the teachers don't teach it > very > often, I had to look for documentation. Oh, that is sad, I'm surprised to read that. > > >Have kids 'goggled' about programming on their own time > and wanted to know about programming? > Now you are right, I learn practically all 'googling'. > Flavio's > students told me they also learn(ed) a big part of what they > know > searching and investigating by them self. > I think it's better because we can learn what we are > interested in, > also if it's not related with Sugar. yes that is true. learning what you want (being an auto-didact) is powerful. > > > Are there computer programming classes and teachers > that have assignments that ask the kids to explore? > > Programming is not often a subject at the school. > I know about optional workshops, like Flavio's. My parents > are > teachers, and about three-four years ago, when I was ten > years old, I > used to go to the highschool where my parents worked and I > listened to > a workshop about web design (basic HTML development) and > graphic > design (with GIMP). That workshop was not a way to get > young > programmers, but it removed me the fear of seeing a source > code as > something strange or made for be understood by non-human > people. Yes, many people have a fear of this 'scary' stuff. It something everyone who wants to learn about programming has to face. Turtleart and Scratch was suppose to help. > > Cheers. > ~danielf > > P.S: Sorry, I don't speak English very well. Thanks you very much for your answers. I think you write English very well! -Kevin aka kevix _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel