Walter, Sounds good. Thanks. Gerald
P.S. And congratulations on the pending new arrival. On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Dr. Gerald Ardito > <gerald.ard...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Daniel and others, >> >> This thread has really inspired me. I am going to work with my >> students to develop Sugar activities. >> I have James' book. Are there other resources I need? > > I'd recommend using the Duplicate function in View Source. Have them > make some changes to a favorite existing Sugar activity. > > regards. > > -walter > >> >> Thanks. >> Gerald >> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Kevin Mark <kevin.m...@verizon.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> --- On Wed, 9/19/12, S. Daniel Francis <fran...@sugarlabs.org> wrote: >>> >>>> From: S. Daniel Francis <fran...@sugarlabs.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18 >>>> To: "Kevin Mark" <kevin.m...@verizon.net> >>>> Cc: "James Simmons" <nices...@gmail.com>, "iaep" >>>> <i...@lists.sugarlabs.org>, "Sugar-dev Devel" >>>> <sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org>, community-n...@lists.sugarlabs.org >>>> Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2012, 11:27 PM >>>> Hi Kevin, >>>> >>>> 2012/9/19 Kevin Mark <kevin.m...@verizon.net>: >>>> > Hearing from the kids who are making Sugar activities >>>> and more contributions, I'm really wanting to >>>> > know what teaching environment made this possible? >>>> >>>> Summing my case all the cases I listened about, we usually >>>> learn by our self. >>>> Thinking about why Sugar, well, we could make desktop >>>> applications, >>>> but a free and decent way to share a program is difficult to >>>> find and >>>> there's not always a community where we can share what we >>>> make. >>> >>> While I can't speak for Sugar Labs, this sound like a very good problems to >>> address. "Scratch" has a website to 'upload' its programs. I would really >>> love to see a way to help young sugar activity hacker have a place for them >>> to 'hack' on their games/activities. Maybe Activities.sugarlabs.org or some >>> website in .uy? And maybe a forum? (I'm not someone to do this sadly but >>> would think that the very capable people around the sugar community would >>> find this idea motivating) >>> >>>> Also I >>>> think Sugar needs activities, unlike desktops, where >>>> practically all >>>> is already made. >>>> >>>> Just Edward suggested us to tell our stories, but at the >>>> moment I'll >>>> not get into many details and only answer your questions. >>>> >>>> > Are there activity hacking classes? >>>> In Uruguay there is only one activity hacking teacher: >>>> Flavio Danesse. >>> >>> OH wow. I have recently started to 'hack' on JAMedia and JAMediaTube. So I >>> know his work. I wonder if making videos of his lecture would be something >>> he could do and the kids could watch? >>> >>>> He is an IT teacher, and every year he organizes a workshop >>>> where he >>>> teaches volunteer students to program in Python. The group >>>> "Python >>>> Joven", in English "Young Python".. >>> >>> If you and others can make 'clubs' in your area, that would be great, maybe >>> they can setup a web 'forum' for everyone to exchange ideas. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Currently, his students contributing here are Agustin >>>> Zubiaga and >>>> Cristhofer Travieso, they told me about another student who >>>> develops >>>> applications for Android. >>>> >>>> > Is this kind of experimentation part of a turtleart >>>> class? >>>> For my part I can say "yes and no"... When I received my XO >>>> with Sugar >>>> I liked very much TurtleArt, but the teachers don't teach it >>>> very >>>> often, I had to look for documentation. >>> >>> Oh, that is sad, I'm surprised to read that. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >Have kids 'goggled' about programming on their own time >>>> and wanted to know about programming? >>>> Now you are right, I learn practically all 'googling'. >>>> Flavio's >>>> students told me they also learn(ed) a big part of what they >>>> know >>>> searching and investigating by them self. >>>> I think it's better because we can learn what we are >>>> interested in, >>>> also if it's not related with Sugar. >>> >>> yes that is true. learning what you want (being an auto-didact) is powerful. >>> >>>> >>>> > Are there computer programming classes and teachers >>>> that have assignments that ask the kids to explore? >>>> >>>> Programming is not often a subject at the school. >>>> I know about optional workshops, like Flavio's. My parents >>>> are >>>> teachers, and about three-four years ago, when I was ten >>>> years old, I >>>> used to go to the highschool where my parents worked and I >>>> listened to >>>> a workshop about web design (basic HTML development) and >>>> graphic >>>> design (with GIMP). That workshop was not a way to get >>>> young >>>> programmers, but it removed me the fear of seeing a source >>>> code as >>>> something strange or made for be understood by non-human >>>> people. >>> >>> Yes, many people have a fear of this 'scary' stuff. It something everyone >>> who wants to learn about programming has to face. Turtleart and Scratch was >>> suppose to help. >>> >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> ~danielf >>>> >>>> P.S: Sorry, I don't speak English very well. >>> >>> Thanks you very much for your answers. I think you write English very well! >>> -Kevin aka kevix >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> _______________________________________________ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel