On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM, David Farning <dfarn...@activitycentral.com> wrote: > I would like to thank everyone who has provided valuable feedback by > participating on this thread. > > The three things I am going to takeway from the the thread are: > 1. Jame's point about my position about not representing the median. > Due to my history and role in the ecosystem, I have upset some > apple-carts :( > 2. Martin's point about the right hand not always being aware of what > the left hand is doing. This unfortunately seems to happen too > frequently. > 3. Finally, and most importantly, Daniel's point about getting back > to the business of improving Sugar. > > My proposal is that Activity Central make the next step of funding two > developers to work on HTML5 and JS. If we can find a mutually > beneficial relationship around this, we can see how we can expand the > relationship in the future. > > Seem reasonable?
Proposals aside (of course more eyes and hands would be appreciated) there is still the underlying issue of mistrust that you have raised. I think it is important that we clear the air and I think it is not unreasonable to ask you to be specific about your perceptions that somehow Sugar Labs is not acting in a transparent manner. -walter > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Daniel Narvaez <dwnarv...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 29 October 2013 01:14, David Farning <dfarn...@activitycentral.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> As two Data points: >>> In a private conversation with an Association employee they told me >>> that they conciser Activity Central a competitor because Activity >>> Central increased deployments expectations. Their strategy with regard >>> to Activity Central was to _not_ accept patches upstream with the goal >>> of causing Activity Central and Dextrose to collapse under its their >>> weight. As it was private conversation I am not sure how widely spread >>> the opinion was held. >> >> >> The patch queue is currently empty. In the last six months only one patchset >> was rejected. It was by Activity Central and it was rejected by me (not an >> OLPC employee) for purely technical reasons. The proof being that the same >> patchset landed after being cleaned up and resubmitted properly by another >> Activity Central developer. >> >> More in general, no single developer is in charge of patch reviewing, OLPC >> couldn't keep code out of the tree for non-technical reason even if they >> wanted to. More specifically the ability to approve patches was offered to >> one Activity Central developer, which never used it. >> >>> Recently there was a call for help testing HTML5 and JS. Two >>> developers Code and Roger have been writing proof of concept >>> activities. They have been receiving extensive off-list help getting >>> started. But, interestingly, their on-list request for clarification >>> about how to test datastore was met with silence. >> >> >> Mailing list posts going unanswered isn't really uncommon in free software >> projects. But most of the time it just means that no one knows the answer or >> everyone is too busy. >> >> Only me and Manuel are usually answering about HTML5. I have not answered >> because... gmail put those messages in my spam folder, sigh! Most likely the >> same happened to Manuel or he has been busy. (I need to take some sleep now >> but I'll try to answer asap). > > > > -- > David Farning > Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > de...@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel