With regards to chat.sugarlabs.org, the version of qwebirc it runs is 10 years out of date, and it has an SSL certificate that expired 4 years ago. I really don't think there's any reason it should ever be recommended to new users (over just using freenode) unless it receives a serious update.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 7:46 PM Bottersnike <bottersnike...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think one of the main issues with IRC is the onboarding experience, or > rather lack thereof. For new users, they're faced with an entirely blank > screen, with no trivial way to search for past questions, see if a topic > has been brought up before, or even just read through history to get a > general idea of the way the organization operates. Sure, there may be > archives maintained, but for someone who has just discovered SugarLabs and > wants to contribute, that really isn't going to be a viable solution, > because it takes significant effort to hunt them down and search through > them. For established teams, this isn't much of an issue, but it can make > SugarLabs an incredibly daunting organization for young students from, say > GCI, or people looking around at different organizations for GSoC. > > > I use Quassel, as it keeps backlog. > > Most clients keep a backlog, but only if your computer is on. That's not > the situation 24/7 for a lot of people. > > (Sorry for the double message, James. I accidentally used Reply not Reply > All) > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 7:15 PM James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > >> Thanks for asking. >> >> For real-time presence messaging, please use IRC channel #sugar on >> freenode.net. Your choice of client. I use Quassel, as it keeps >> backlog. >> >> For store and forward messaging, please use the mailing list. Your >> choice of client. >> >> You'll get a voice on choice of tools once you've been working with us >> for a few months. Until then we can't trust that you've assessed the >> situation accurately. >> >> Gitter.im was yet another attempt to split our community into the >> haves and the have-nots. I'm almost ready to ditch my account there >> because it has way less benefit than the cost. Of receiving a mail >> notification, logging in, and answering the same old questions. It is >> quite boring. You can see that if you look through the previous >> discussion, which you'll find was entirely sporadic; someone >> has a question, I answer, nothing else happens. It could have been >> done in mail. It costs so much memory and screen real-estate that I >> can't see myself staying connected. I certainly don't want it >> promoted for Sugar Labs, but I'm willing to keep it available in case >> it turns out to be useful for working with anyone who can't figure out >> how to use IRC. We must allow for the possibility that someone with a >> disability has been given access to Gitter.im but not to IRC. So a >> matter of inclusiveness, but not emphasis. >> >> On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 08:03:31PM +0530, Prashant Sengar wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I am sure this request must have been raised earlier as well. I wanted >> to ask >> > if Sugar could create a communication channel on another platform such >> as a >> > discord server, Slack or Telegram instead of IRC to make communication >> easier. >> > >> > The reason why others will be a better option: >> > 1. The chats will be accessible even if I am offline for a while, >> unlike IRC >> > where I cannot see any earlier data. >> > 2. IRC cannot be used on mobile devices, so it creates a barrier in >> > communication. On the other hand, the other chat applications are >> available on >> > all platforms for everyone to use. >> > >> > I would like to request the team to please consider this request. If >> such >> > request has been made earlier and denied due to some reasons, then I >> would like >> > to know them so that I can understand the reasons and work accordingly. >> > >> > Regards. >> > Prashant Sengar >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sugar-devel mailing list >> > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> >> >> -- >> James Cameron >> http://quozl.netrek.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> >
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