1. When? Nobody's cited examples where it's more desirable to use Alt-Tab than the dedicated key.
I use Sugar as much on a non-XO as I do on an XO and so I often don't have a dedicated key to access the Journal. I would need to resort to opening the Frame and then clicking on the Journal icon--too many steps. Speaking personally, having come from the wonderful world of Emacs, I tend to be more comfortable with key sequences than using dedicated keys. Of course, in both cases, we are not talking about a novice user. But my rule of thumb is that the Journal should be easier to access, not harder. Removing it from the Alt-Tab sequence makes it that much harder to find. -walter On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:21:23PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> have we reached any consensus on [alt-tabbing to the Journal]? > > No, based on http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6251 > >> Perhaps someone that cares about changing the current behavior could >> do a summary of the arguments on each side? > > *Perhaps* there are only two opposing views; I am biased but will > attempt to summarize the pro (removing-from-alt-tab-list) and the > con (keep-it-as-is-now) views: > > Pro: > > 1. One never wants to Alt-Tab to the journal > 2. there is a dedicated key for getting to it > 3. the journal should be treated more like a zoom level ("lower" than > the home view). > 4. Unnecessarily makes itself the active activity when focused, so now > the Activity/F4 key as well as the search key are dedicated to it. > > Cons: > 1. One sometimes wants to Alt-Tab to the journal > 2. The journal is positioned like an activity in the Frame and UI > > I personally respond to the cons as follows: > > 1. When? Nobody's cited examples where it's more desirable to use > Alt-Tab than the dedicated key. > > 2. > a) Frame positioning can be changed - there are two proposals and one > with a mockup that synchronizes the keyboard layout with the frame > layout: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Activity_management_journal_core.jpeg > > b) I don't know what's meant by > "positioned like an activity in the . . . UI" - it seems quite > distinct and more like another zoom level to me, and the journal is > never launched like other activities are (neither from Home, Mesh, > Neighborhood zoom levels, nor resumed from itself). > > >> Thanks, >> >> Tomeu > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Sugar mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ Sugar mailing list [email protected] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

