At 20.14 19/10/98 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>       I would like to design a sundial that has furniture on it to indicate 
> the
>times for Muslim prayers. Does anyone know the times for Muslim prayers? I
>know that there is a prayer time before sunrise, noon (by the sun) and
>before sunset. I have also been told that there is also a prayer time when
>the shadow of a pole is as long as the height of the pole, but that is all
>I know.  Also has anyone got any information about Muslim sundials?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Roderick Wall.


Dear Roderick,
if you desire to calculate the times of the Islamic prayers by youself you
have to  follow the instructions given by Fer de Vries . 
On the contrary if   you desire a program to make the calculations and some
information on Islamic prayers  I list below some programs and files that
you can find in Internet 

- MINARET for Windows 95 - by  Kamal Abdali - Whashington  Email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Look for it in    ftp.netcom.com
the program is well done and very useful 

- HILAL for Excel       and  SALATIME - by Ali Cengia - Muslim Community -
Australia (73 Barossa Rd. - 7010 - Australia )

- MOON CALCULATOR       and  PRAYER Time CALCULATOR - by Dr. Monzur Ahmed
Birmingham - UK        Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]        very
documented with history and bibliography

- ISLAMIC TIMER - by Waleed A. Muhanna - Columbus - Ohaio

- RAMADAN.DOC - Text file  - by Mohib N. Durrani - Islamic Amateur
Astronomers Association - Columbia University - NY 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  . Veri interesting.

Addresses  and EMail are old ( 1996 ) and perhaps they are no more valid.
I don't have the www links from where it's possible to unload the programs
and, if you'll  find some difficulties , I can send some of them as file
ttached to a personal  message.


In 1997 I have written a book (not printed and distributed in photocopy )
that deals with ancient Islamic Sundials.
In it there is   the history of  them,   several informations on the
prayers , the Hilal, the Kibla, etc. and the description, in detail and  in
modern form, of the types of sundials that are described in the Arabic
manuscripts of the 900-1300 
The book (150 pags. A4,  125 sketches and graphs and 56 reproductions of
photos)  is written in Italian and to it is enclosed a floppy disk with
several programs to calculate, to draw and to visualize many types of fixed
and portable sundials of the ancient Arabs.
If you are interested  I can send the files  (470 kb zipped) (unfortunately
also the programs are  in Italian)

Best regards     Gianni




Ing. Gianni Ferrari
Via Valdrighi, 135  
41100 - MODENA  ( ITALY )
EMail :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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