David,

That seems about right, it was such a pad that was used on the aerial for my
mobile phone. I recall that stick-on security plates for laptop computers
also use a pad of double-sided "stuff". Wish I knew where I could buy it.

All I have been able to buy in small quantities is standard DIY / home
hardware grade double-sided adhesive. It may be possible to get the
high-strength stuff from 3M or one of the industrial tape manufacturers. I
haven't  tried this yet, but when I have asked manufacturers for small
amounts of other products, I have found that the minimum order / package
size was way beyond my means and needs. Even the agents for some companies
are reluctant to order small quantities.

Cheers, John

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Re: SGS Gnomon Attachment


> The 'glue' used to stick car mirrors is actually a very strong double
sided sticky pad. Available from replacement car windsrceen fitters.
> David.
> >
> > From: "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Fri 25/Jul/2003 17:52 CEST
> > To: <sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de>
> > Subject: Re: SGS Gnomon Attachment
> >
> > Hi Tony:
> >
> > That's great information to know. I have a feeling the bolting method
> > through glass or the metal structure would be better than the "car
mirror"
> > method.
> >
> > I wonder what method the glassers use to drill glass?  I'll have to ask
> > them.  But, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm going to try to drill a hole
the
> > same way I drill holes in stone using a high speed diamond sphere with
H2O.
> > But I have no intension of make stained glass sundial windows myself.
But I
> > might try some stone inlays someday.
> >
> >
> > John L. Carmichael Jr.
> > Sundial Sculptures
> > 925 E. Foothills Dr.
> > Tucson Arizona 85718
> > USA
> >
> > Tel: 520-696-1709
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Website: <http://www.sundialsculptures.com>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Sundial Mail List" <sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de>
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: SGS Gnomon Attachment
> >
> >
> > > John Carmichael asked:
> > > >
> > > >What do you think is the best method to attach a metal rod gnomon to
a
> > > >stained glass sundial window?
> > > >
> > > >It's the most frequent question I've been getting from the
"Glassers". I
> > > >do have an article that Mike Cowham sent me that mentions that in the
> > > >seventeenth century, a threaded gnomon was usually bolted to a hole
cut
> > in
> > > >the glass.  Of course that resulted in a lot of cracked glass and
missing
> > > >gnomons, especially if the glass was thin.
> > > >
> > > I've no practical experience of attaching gnomons to glass but would
like
> > > to experiment with:
> > >
> > > 1.  modern adhesives to attach a gnomon with a small baseplate.  If it
> > > drops off after twenty years just clean it up and re-attach. The glues
> > > used to stick interior mirrors on car windscreens would be a useful
> > > beginning perhaps?
> > >
> > > 2.  attaching through a drilled hole with e.g. a 20mm brass disc on
each
> > > side of the glass and soft vinyl washers in a sort of 'sandwich'
squeezed
> > > gently tight with a nut on the inside.  The gnomon could be silver
> > > soldered to the outer disc before assembly.  Twin bolts would prevent
> > > rotation.
> > >
> > > A very safe way to 'drill' glass is to use a short piece of
thick-walled
> > > copper tube of e.g. 6mm outer diameter with a few radial sawcuts in an
> > > electric drill.
> > > Garages are a good source of the right stuff.
> > >
> > > Place the glass flat on a firm/soft supporting surface, e.g. cork, and
> > > build a tiny 'dam' around the intended hole site with Plasticene.  Mix
a
> > > little turpentine with carborundum powder, place a few drops within
the
> > > dam and you can abrade a neat clean hole in no time but reduce the
> > > pressure at breakthrough or the hole edges may flake.  A thin piece of
> > > wood with a 6mm hole will guide the tube until it begins cutting after
> > > which it is just gently lifted and replaced to refresh the abrasive.
> > >
> > > Have fun
> > >
> > > Tony Moss
> > > -
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> >
> >
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> >
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