Page 8 of "Calculating-Shadows.pdf" on my website www.illustratingshadows.com  
goes into this issue. Watch out for how Excel handles the INT function. 

I can't remember if I left Calculating-Shadows.pdf in the booklet section, if 
not then do:-

http://www.illustratingshadows.com/Calculating-Shadows.pdf

and note that the C and the S of the file name are in upper case.

Simon


--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Chris Lusby Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Chris Lusby Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Transfer to EXCEL
> To: "Tony Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sundial Mailing List" 
> <sundial@uni-koeln.de>
> Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 4:56 AM
> Hi Tony,
> I'm not 100% clear what you want to display. For
> instance, for -0.75 minutes
> do you want -0 and -45 or -0 and 45 or 0 and -45? Or,
> doesn't it matter much
> so long as any non-zero figure has the correct sign?
> 
> Also, for -4.483 do you want -4 and -28.98 or do you want
> the seconds
> rounded to, say, the nearest second? The following assumes
> you do want
> rounding to the nearest second. Omit the ROUND functions if
> you don't.
> 
> I don't use Excel, I use Open Office, but am pretty
> sure the following works
> in both:
> 
> Assuming cell A1 has the number you want to convert, then
> to get whole
> minutes use:
> =ROUNDDOWN(ROUND(A1*60)/60)
> 
> (Note that ROUNDDOWN rounds towards zero, which is what you
> want.)
> 
> Assuming you put the whole minutes in cell B1, then seconds
> are:
> =ROUND(60*(A1-B1))
> 
> For -0.75 minutes this will give 0 and -45
> For -1.25 minutes it will give -1 and -15
> For 2.999 minutes it will give 3 minutes 0 seconds.
> For -4.483 minutes it will give -4 and -29
> 
> I don't know any simple way to display -0. It's
> much easier to show 0.
> 
> Hope this helps
> Best wishes
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tony Moss"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Sundial Mailing List"
> <sundial@uni-koeln.de>
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:35 AM
> Subject: Transfer to EXCEL
> 
> 
> > Fellow Shadow Watchers,
> >                                           For many
> years now all my
> > dialling calculations have been done using
> spreadsheets in an ancient
> > version of MicroSoft 'Works'. A recent change
> of Mac operating system
> > has me painfully transferring everything to EXCEL
> version 12.1.1
> > Data cells COPY/PASTE directly but some of the
> 'Works' formulae no
> > longer function and 'Help' is pretty
> convoluted.
> >
> > I need to take positive and negative decimal times
> e.g. 3.26 minutes and
> > -4.483 minutes and convert them into two columns of
> whole minutes and
> > whole seconds.  As I recall negative values of less
> than 1 minute e.g
> > -0.816 mins. were a particular problem.
> >
> >  As one who has to take his shoes off for numbers
> greater than 10 :-)
> > any assistance would be much appreciated.
> >
> > Tony Moss
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> >
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